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  • #41
    Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
    Simple propaganda statement. Hes about to use it to tell everyone why AJ is the A side and deserves more of the split and every other advantage that comes with it. Perhaps trying to derail the negotiations until after Fury-Ngannou. I maintain the thought that Eddie would rather find a way to bypass Wilder and go straight to Fury. He just needs to poke Wilders ego enough to have him pull out.
    He is not far wrong in his assessment though, Wilder cant box for sht but he game and kicks like a mule, the difference with Fury vs Wilder and AJ vs Wilder is AJ cant take his shot but on sheer boxing AJ could put him to sleep and make it look easy, if he had Furys mind he would for sure, the gamble is whether AJ will go for it or shell up in defence mode, AJs issues are in his head he has the ability to beat any current HW he just doesn't believe in himself.

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    • #42
      It'll all be over soon, Eddie.

      Deontay will make it quick and painless.

      One punch and your cash cow will crumple to the canvas.

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      • #43
        Oritz was the obvious answer because he was Joshua's mandatory at one point, and then removed from the rankings and never got his spot back after testing positive for his heart meds if I'm not mistaken. Whyte was offered a fight against against Wilder if he beat Ortiz but declined. He said he was to old but went on to lose to Povetkin who was around the same age.
        ​Povetkin tested positive the week before the fight (He flew to Russia for that fight)
        Usyk didn't want the fight
        Ruiz didn't want the fight
        Joshua didn't take a $50 Mil guarantee.

        Who did he miss that actually wanted to fight him? Anyone I could think of that was decent later tested positive for a banned substance.


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        • #44
          Originally posted by Rockybigblower View Post
          Simple propaganda statement. Hes about to use it to tell everyone why AJ is the A side and deserves more of the split and every other advantage that comes with it. Perhaps trying to derail the negotiations until after Fury-Ngannou. I maintain the thought that Eddie would rather find a way to bypass Wilder and go straight to Fury. He just needs to poke Wilders ego enough to have him pull out.
          I don't think financial splits will come into it this time. The Saudis will pay them both well.

          For me, Hearn is trying to awaken the Wilder/Joshua crazies from a few years back
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          Last edited by Mr WorldWide; 08-17-2023, 02:55 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by bullydean View Post

            Both Klitschko brothers offered Wilder a title shot and Wilder rejected both offers because "Wilder is a baby and is not ready for a title shot" even though Wilder had won over 30 fights by KO.
            Wilder ducked the Klitschko bros.
            Wilder was getting beaten by Ortiz up until the KO. A overhyped 40 year old with high blood pressure was beating Wilder.
            Yes, I'm not saying wilder hasn't ducked fights. It's be interesting to know how many times wilder has been behind on points before being great for 2 seconds

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            • #46
              I don't disagree but neithers Aj.

              Take away all the shot past it 38-41 year olds & who's he beat?
              Alway's ducked the top 2 while they've gone on to have the greatest trilogy since Bowe Holyfield in the 90s.

              They're both as bad as each other.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by chicken- View Post

                He did well vs Ruiz even after being older and KO'd by Wilder twice, clearly 2 credible wins for Wilder that was in the same league as people who have beaten AJ.
                I'm not arguing Ortiz isn't credible because clearly he's a talented heavyweight but I was questioning the reasoning behind him being a more impressive win over Povetkin or Klitschko. Is Ortiz in the same league as Klitschko or Usyk? Absolutely not in my opinion.

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                • #48
                  Do people really rate Wilder though?

                  I think most people understand that hes a very limited fighter with a heavily padded record (like most boxers tbh...) but he also has great power, good athleticism and a 6'7 frame, so hes not completely shyt. Hes also very entertaining to watch.

                  One thing I will say is I dont buy that hes automatically a top 3 HW today. But then again I have the same opinion on Joshua. They are both vulnerable and beatable vs more than just Fury or Usyk imo.

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                  • #49
                    I can't believe Hearn can say something like this and honestly believe it while he continued to have his fighter avoid Wilder like the plague for years. Surely they're going to make the fight happen now as Wilder pushes nearer to 40 and it's a mega money fight to just let go.

                    Wilder took a fight 3 times with a guy AJ would have no business trying to fight (Fury). Wilder showed more heart in those fights than AJ did in his 1 fight with Andy. Not to mention his rematch embarrassment. Andy look like he ate the stay puff marshmallow man and AJ was scared straight to seriously engage with Andy.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Leicesterage View Post
                      Wilder wasn't sparked out by someone shorter with a food binge.

                      Wilder was mauled by a bear. And STILL wanted more smoke.

                      That's why.
                      AJ has never been sparked out by anybody. Unlike Wilder, he has never finished a fight unconscious on the canvas.

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