Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Cannot Believe How Highly People Rate Wilder, He's Never Beaten a Top-Five Foe

[OldTerry]

Both Klitschko brothers offered Wilder a title shot and Wilder rejected both offers because "Wilder is a baby and is not ready for a title shot" even though Wilder had won over 30 fights by KO.
Wilder ducked the Klitschko bros.
Wilder was getting beaten by Ortiz up until the KO. A overhyped 40 year old with high blood pressure was beating Wilder.

When Wilder stops Joshua in devastating fashion, you'll have to swallow your criticisms of Wilder.

[hhh1200]

In his current state, I think AJ isn't any better than Ortiz and Fury. As limited as Wilder is, he just needs you to forget you are in a fight for a couple of seconds. I'm going to go on a limb and say Fury has better punch resistance AJ and Ortiz?

One of the biggest misperceptions is he needs full extension on the right.

Just turned his hips.

[OldTerry]

I don't think financial splits will come into it this time. The Saudis will pay them both well.

For me, Hearn is trying to awaken the Wilder/Joshua crazies from a few years back

I believe that to be correct. It's not like one purse that has to be divided between the two fighters. The Saudi's simply contract each fighter separately. The amount of each contract is solely determined by the Saudi's.

[kafkod]

Oritz was the obvious answer because he was Joshua's mandatory at one point, and then removed from the rankings and never got his spot back after testing positive for his heart meds if I'm not mistaken. Whyte was offered a fight against against Wilder if he beat Ortiz but declined. He said he was to old but went on to lose to Povetkin who was around the same age.
Povetkin tested positive the week before the fight (He flew to Russia for that fight)
Usyk didn't want the fight
Ruiz didn't want the fight
Joshua didn't take a $50 Mil guarantee.

Who did he miss that actually wanted to fight him? Anyone I could think of that was decent later tested positive for a banned substance.

Yeah, because making a "take-it-or-leave-it" offer over social media, then refusing to meet up or even take a phone call to discuss terms is the way to go!

And you forgot about this:

"You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I was getting to fight you." ~ Deontay Wilder to Tyson Fury https://twitter.com/BronzeBomber/sta...16635866243072

[OldTerry]

AJ has never been sparked out by anybody. Unlike Wilder, he has never finished a fight unconscious on the canvas.

Also, unlike AJ against Ruiz, Wilder has never quit in the ring.

[kafkod]

Also, unlike AJ against Ruiz, Wilder has never quit in the ring.

AJ has never quit in the ring either. You can tell a lie a million times, it will never become the truth.

[paulf]

Crawford's resume wasn't that impressive compared to Spences.

Look what happened.

[Marchegiano]

AJ has never been sparked out by anybody. Unlike Wilder, he has never finished a fight unconscious on the canvas.

C'mon dude, you had a good point. No need to exaggerate. Wilder's never finished a fight unconscious either. Not beating the count and not being awake are very different. Dude's supporting himself on his elbows and **** at least.

That said, Joshua's on his feet isn't he? No need to exaggerate.

[LAchargers373]

Those wins don't look better due to age? Remind me how old Ortiz was? You cannot criticize Povetkin or Klitschko for age, but claim Ortiz is a more impressive win. If I remember correctly Ortiz supposedly needed blood pressure medication, so is he in better physical condition than Klitschko? I don't think so.

My argument is simple Ortiz as professional and amateur has never accomplished anything outside of being second best, this isn't the case for Povetkin and Klitschko. Furthermore, I could think Wach beats Ortiz but it doesn't make it reality. I'd take AJ over Ortiz because the latters durability is declining and he has a tendency to walk onto heavy shots.

Ortiz was a better win that klitsko and pivetkin dude sorry. Ortiz was old when he fought wilder but the Ortiz that would have sparked AJ. Also ortiz was a pretty good amatuer. I agree his durability is questionable at this point but no more than AJs. I’d actually love to see that fight

[bullydean]

When Wilder stops Joshua in devastating fashion, you'll have to swallow your criticisms of Wilder.

Why? Wilder is a ducker and his only legit win will be AJ IF and only IF he beats him.
He still ducked the Klitschko bros, Andy, and Fury was a cherry pick gone wrong.