Anyone give Helenius any chance tomorrow?

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  • joe strong
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    #11
    I would laugh if Helenius Breazealed him. I expect Joshua to knock him out by the mid rounds. Helenius is a good counterpuncher & is willing to take one to land one but that doesn’t always work against a power puncher. Stiverne & Helenius were good counterpunchers in their prime & it worked against guys like Arreola & Kownacki because neither had heavy hands. That take one to counter didn’t work against Wilder & I doubt it works against Joshua. You have to be able to take that punch to land your counter.

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      #12
      The only shot I give him is my mind drawing similarities from the first Ruiz fight; opponent tests positive, late replacement coming off a recent win is brought in, no one believes he’ll do anything but get KO’d…ends up ****ing up AJ.

      Other than that reach, I think it’ll go a few rounds before AJ gets him, prob around the 5th.

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        #13
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        I actually made a similar thread when he fought Wilder, questioning whether Wilder was now a vulnerable fighter physically/mentally after back to back losses, the same essentially applies to AJ.

        I can’t really see it being competitive though tbh. I think he’s too stiff and doesn’t really have the motivation at this stage of his career.

        I think Joshua stops him in the mid rounds.
        No! I personally, don't give him a chance tomorrow because he is a cherrypicked opponent. Lightning does strike twice. This won't be an Andy Ruiz redux. Joshua stops him within three rounds.

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        • HENNY
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          #14
          Naww, Helenius pulls back straight with his chin up to avoid shots. Can't do that against a guy that's basically the same size. It'll be a poor performance by AJ if it goes past 6 tbh

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            #15
            Never ever rated helenius and he is old now and past whatever best he was, I'd be shocked if even this gun shy version of aj loses, wouldn't be shocked if he stinks the joint out being far too cautious before getting the stoppage though.


            Would be hilarious and i have put 20 quid on at 14-1 for aj to get stopped but i just can't see it, I've put the bet on to motivate myself to actually watch it.
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              #16
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Punchers chance.

              Next to no chance realistically.
              I would guess about 4 or 5 percent chance to win by ko.

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              • Clegg
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                #17
                AJ might be ****** enough to rush onto something early trying to out-do Wilder.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by rjj-94-02=goat
                  i actually made a similar thread when he fought wilder, questioning whether wilder was now a vulnerable fighter physically/mentally after back to back losses, the same essentially applies to aj.

                  I can’t really see it being competitive though tbh. I think he’s too stiff and doesn’t really have the motivation at this stage of his career.

                  I think joshua stops him in the mid rounds.
                  who cares?????????????????????????

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                  • paulf
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                    #19
                    Helenius has decent power and a good chin.

                    At heavyweight, I give any top-20 guy a chance. Boxrec has him at 24. Should be interesting.

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                      #20
                      If AJ comes out in Round 1 firing big power shots, trying to take Robert's head off like Deontay, that's Robert's best chance to counter and stun him.

                      Anything past Round 3, you'll see AJ taking over by accumulation of damage and old Robert slowing down and showing his age.

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