Isn't it possible Ngannou has more power than Wilder?

[IronDanHamza]

He can crack harder with boxing gloves and he has more opportunity to do so. In fact a 100% since it's boxing.

Come back this thread when he fights Fury and has no power what so ever just like McGregor didn't.

The same McGregor who has a higher KO% than Ngannou.

60% KO ratio

[hugh grant]

He has a rematch clause as well according to Ngannou Does that sound like a confident man?

Yeh, I don't know what it is with rematch clauses nowadays. Of courses we don't mind with spence and bud. But hopefully fury beats Francis and no rematch needed

[Pugilist89]

Come back this thread when he fights Fury and has no power what so ever just like McGregor didn't.

The same McGregor who has a higher KO% than Ngannou.

60% KO ratio

Oh he will have power... And he can reach Fury too. Probably not enough to stiffen him though. If a bum like Wilder can take Fury to war, Ngannou can too.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I was talking about the natural, genetic size of the muscle. Not inflated size via bodybuilding or power lifting.

Even if we kept it strictly to genetic gifts, things like tendon attachment placement, bone density and length, etc are HUGELY more relevant than muscle size, genetic or not. Muscle size is a tiny (fractional change) variable in the kinetic chain. A slight difference in tendon attachment is a large multiplier. A quarter inch of difference in tendon placement can lead to triple or quadruple the maximal power that can be generated, for instance. And LEG muscles are usually far more relevant to punching power than arm muscles in any case.

You can easily experiment with practical applications by constructing a small trebuchet. Look at how much the length of the lever arm and the placement of the pivot affect the distance a load can be thrown compared to the size of the counterweight. And that's a drastically less complex kinetic chain than what happens to throw a punch.

And that's all almost entirely irrelevant absent solid technique. That's ALSO leaving out ANY of the relevant factors when it comes to punch efficacy.

That's also leaving aside the fact that you don't know squat about someone's genetic muscle size from a picture of them. Those speak way more to the type of training that they've done.

This is all basic stuff when it comes to power generation. You have to at least get the basics right first, and we haven't even gotten to the concept of putting the force on target here.

[crimsonfalcon07]

That's not true. The strongest powerlifters are fast twitchers, not slow.

See mariuz pudzianowski KO a Gracie. Fast twitch muscle fiber at work.

Those guys also gas out within a single round, and since their technique sucks, they don't have punching power anyways.

This really ought to be obvious. How many successful boxers do you see who have huge muscles and bodybuilder physiques? Can you name anyone besides AJ or maybe Mike Tyson? I sure hope you're just trolling.

[Pugilist89]

That's also leaving aside the fact that you don't know squat about someone's genetic muscle size from a picture of them. Those speak way more to the type of training that they've done.

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I meant that Ngannou has bigger limb, meaning more weight.

If you compare them to their respective pools, you can have get an idea who has bigger what.

Fast twitch muscle fiber speed is really all you need to know how hard someone is going to punch combined with their mass

[Pugilist89]

Those guys also gas out within a single round, and since their technique sucks, they don't have punching power anyways.

This really ought to be obvious. How many successful boxers do you see who have huge muscles and bodybuilder physiques? Can you name anyone besides AJ or maybe Mike Tyson? I sure hope you're just trolling.

I am not talking about definition, I'm taking about SIZE of the arm.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I meant that Ngannou has bigger limb, meaning more weight.

If you compare them to their respective pools, you can have get an idea who has bigger what.

Fast twitch muscle fiber speed is really all you need to know how hard someone is going to punch combined with their mass

You don't know anything about this, do you? And apparently you're incapable of learning. You believe whatever you want. Won't change the physics of it. I'm done with your trolling. Have a good one.

[HeadShots]

Cain is a glass jaw though.

he doesn't. it was only after this fight that he somehow has a glass jaw.

[Toffee]

Fast twitch muscle fiber speed is really all you need to know how hard someone is going to punch combined with their mass

And their talent. ie their ability to deliver a punch.

No-one of it is useful without technique.