Isn't it possible Ngannou has more power than Wilder?

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  • Pugilist89
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    #121
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    I think you might want to reevaluate the maths there mate.

    Francis Ngannou has 12 KO's in 20 fights which equals 60%

    Conor McGregor when he fought Floyd had 17 KO's in 24 fights which equals 70.8%

    McGregor also knocked out the P4P #1 ranked fighter in 13 seconds with one punch.

    So, you're wrong, again.
    He has 12 kos out of 17 wins. 3 of the additional stoppages were from Ngannou submitting his opponents despitynot knowing jack **** about Jiujitsu.


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      #122
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Ok so now you're either trolling or retarded.

      Which one?
      There is a HUGE correlation between strength and size of the muscle. The only other factor is number of fast twitch muscle fibers..but those are evenly distributed between the groups so it's not a confounding variable.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Pugilist89

        He has 12 kos out of 17 wins. 3 of the additional stoppages were from Ngannou submitting his opponents despitynot knowing jack **** about Jiujitsu.


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        Ok. What does submitting people have to do with KO's?

        McGregor had a higher KO% when he fought Floyd than Ngannou has now and that is a fact.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Pugilist89

          There is a HUGE correlation between strength and size of the muscle. The only other factor is number of fast twitch muscle fibers..but those are evenly distributed between the groups so it's not a confounding variable.
          Strength and size of muscle has no correlation between punching power.

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            #125
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza

            I'm citing 2015 because that's when Wilder fought him, when Stiverne was WBC Champion.

            I only got into MMA in the last 10 or so years, I'm a casual fan I don't understand any of the grappling or submissions (Getting better) but guys I like or have liked since I started watching it would be Dan Henderson, Masvidal, Jon Jones, Khabib, Gathje, erm I liked GSP and Bisping there's quite a few to be fair I like the guys back stories and stuff like that and personality. The UFC fighters remind me of WWF characters and it reminds me of a better time in Boxing.
            Thats cool mang it's a fun sport to get into. we're boxing purists through and through but its cool seeing another combat sport, its crazy interesting.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Pugilist89

              If Fury is so confident of victory, why won't he put a title on the line?
              Maybe fury wants to give impression this is just a keep busy type thing, and don't want to insult boxing fans

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                #127
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                Strength and size of muscle has no correlation between punching power.
                "Most people are born with 50% slow-twitch muscle fibers and 50% fast-twitch muscle fibers.

                "Only elite strength or power athletes might have 80% type II muscle fibers and endurance athletes have about 90% type I."

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                  #128
                  For boxing and power there only one other factor besides fast twitch muscle fiber, and that is size of the muscle.

                  Foreman is generally percieved as being a slow twitcher but it's not true. He had a snappy jab and good TOP speed on his punches. They weren't very accurate though because he swung them very long. He wasn't the most coordinated athlete, like a Wladimir Klitchko. Or else he would have tightened them up more often.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Pugilist89

                    "Most people are born with 50% slow-twitch muscle fibers and 50% fast-twitch muscle fibers.

                    "Only elite strength or power athletes might have 80% type II muscle fibers and endurance athletes have about 90% type I."
                    Ok...

                    What does this have to do with the fact there is no correlation between muscle strength and size and punching power?

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by hugh grant

                      Maybe fury wants to give impression this is just a keep busy type thing, and don't want to insult boxing fans
                      He has a rematch clause as well according to Ngannou Does that sound like a confident man?

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