Isn't it possible Ngannou has more power than Wilder?

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  • Loque-san
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    #101
    Originally posted by Pugilist89


    Why would Joyce lie?

    Boxing gym etiquette and Joyce being a nice guy.

    He may not be lying. I'm just saying he wouldn't talk trash about Ngannou even if the thought his boxing was bad.

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    • 4truth
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      #102
      Originally posted by Pugilist89

      Where is that GIF from? Lmao
      Not sure but it cracked me up too

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        #103
        Originally posted by Loque-san


        Boxing gym etiquette and Joyce being a nice guy.

        He may not be lying. I'm just saying he wouldn't talk trash about Ngannou even if the thought his boxing was bad.
        He could say his power was average. It's simple physics why Ngannou has huge power. His arms are similar to Liston.

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        • Loque-san
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          #104
          Originally posted by Sharpshootah
          This Stiverne talk. He ******. Wilder isn't good we all realize this right? Who said outbox them? He could definitely KO them. You wouldn't know though.
          Yeah, right. I've heard enough.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Loque-san

            Yeah, right. I've heard enough.
            Stiverne from 2015 would kill Ngannou in a couple rounds.

            Malik Scott would stop him.

            This is just McGregor all over again. People can't seem to grasp that MMA fighters can't punch in comparison to boxers.

            When Ngannou fights Fury, he'll land some punches, it's a fight it's inevitable. They'll have absolutely nothing on them.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Pugilist89

              He could say his power was average. It's simple physics why Ngannou has huge power. His arms are similar to Liston.
              You can look at Wilders frame, and see why he can crack with that right hand.

              Never been a bodybuilding contest.

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                #107
                Originally posted by Pugilist89

                He could say his power was average. It's simple physics why Ngannou has huge power. His arms are similar to Liston.
                Arm size has very little to do with the physics of punching.

                Technique is the most important thing. Can you maximize your force throughout the travel of your punch? What's the kinetic chain? Wilder's power comes from the length of his limbs, and how he can crack his right like a whip. He's got very high tendon attachment on his arms too, so he's able to generate more lever force from his arms than average. Ngannou uses rotation and his mass to generate power. Neither one of them has perfect technique, but they both have advantages that give them one shot stop power.

                When it comes to knockouts, that power has to land, and it really helps if the opponent doesn't see it coming. Fury has the length and skill to keep Ngannou on the outside all night long. But, if he tries to get in a slugfest and prove he can out power Ngannou, then the puncher's chance comes in.

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                • satiev1
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                  #108
                  No chance. Wilder's punches are blinding fast where as ngoannou is slow

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                  • Pugilist89
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    Stiverne from 2015 would kill Ngannou in a couple rounds.

                    Malik Scott would stop him.

                    This is just McGregor all over again. People can't seem to grasp that MMA fighters can't punch in comparison to boxers.

                    When Ngannou fights Fury, he'll land some punches, it's a fight it's inevitable. They'll have absolutely nothing on them.
                    McGregor isn't a freak of nature.. And he didn't ko 99% of his opponents within a minute. Dumb analogy.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                      Arm size has very little to do with the physics of punching.

                      Technique is the most important thing. Can you maximize your force throughout the travel of your punch? What's the kinetic chain? Wilder's power comes from the length of his limbs, and how he can crack his right like a whip. He's got very high tendon attachment on his arms too, so he's able to generate more lever force from his arms than average. Ngannou uses rotation and his mass to generate power. Neither one of them has perfect technique, but they both have advantages that give them one shot stop power.

                      When it comes to knockouts, that power has to land, and it really helps if the opponent doesn't see it coming. Fury has the length and skill to keep Ngannou on the outside all night long. But, if he tries to get in a slugfest and prove he can out power Ngannou, then the puncher's chance comes in.
                      Wilder the last couple of years has the best straight right I've ever seen technically. It is not flawed. The rest of his game is garbage. On par with Ngannou

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