Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor on Lopez Fight: My Legs Were Gone By Fourth, Fifth Round; I Strayed From the Game Plan

[Sid-Knee]

LOL. Facts and rational always on your side. That alone there says how wacky you are.

The deflection and ad hominem attack has come straight into play. What a predictable sight.

I asked a simple and reasonable question. What seems to be the problem here?

[STREET CLEANER]

The deflection and ad hominem attack has come straight into play. What a predictable sight.

I asked a simple and reasonable question. What seems to be the problem here?

LOL, that you are wacky.

[Sid-Knee]

LOL, that you are wacky.

Again, you deflected. You think it's wacky to ask simple questions to weirdo's and have weirdo's go through all their personality disorders because they can't answer simple questions?

As i say, i'm not the one who is wacky here. I have the facts and the rational on my side. I'm not talking about opinion here. I'm talking about facts. You're one of the extremists as you can see.

Now, can you care to answer the question to your claims? Funny how you never can. Isn't it? Very strange indeed. Why do you think that is?

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

They're not just targeting British fighters. They're targeting anyone they can get their hands on.

Can you not give me any wins for Americans or Mexicans who have been out for a long period of time against an active opponent? it's a simple question.

The fight won't happen if the advantage isn't in play. They'll lose otherwise. Why, who are these Americans and Mexicans with top level wins when they're fighting an opponent that is active and ready to go? Again, another simple question.

Wait a second, didn't Taylor choose to fight Lopez over Catterall? Your basing everything on a point, which there's no evidence was a factor in determining the winner of a contest. Did Taylor lose due to inactivity ? No, lost because of his inability to close the gap consistently or adjust to fighting off the back-foot.

Furthermore, what do you consider active? How many months between a fight is active. On-top of this what is your definition of a top level win, Luis Alberto Lopez win over Warrington? Or Saul Alvarez over John Ryder.

[Sid-Knee]

Wait a second, didn't Taylor choose to fight Lopez over Catterall? Your basing everything on a point, which there's no evidence was a factor in determining the winner of a contest. Did Taylor lose due to inactivity ? No, lost because of his inability to close the gap consistently or adjust to fighting off the back-foot.

Furthermore, what do you consider active? How many months between a fight is active. On-top of this what is your definition of a top level win, Luis Alberto Lopez win over Warrington? Or Saul Alvarez over John Ryder.

Arum wanted Taylor to mess Catterall around and pull out with "Injuries" to get rid of Catterall and keep Taylor out of the ring for a long time while he kept Teo active. Arum didn't want that title going elsewhere and against his plans. Arum didn't go to the trouble to keep Catterall out of the top of the WBO rankings the first time for nothing. Nor did he go through the trouble of getting Teo into the mandatory spot after the Martin fight for the same reason. Martin was to prepare for Taylor being a southpaw but Teo went and lost. Not to worry, they just rip him off on the cards. Not forgetting Martin was brought in at short notice to look good on Teo's record and also being ill prepared. It just backfired because Teo just isn't that good. This is the same Teo that drew with Loma but got the massive UD in his favour.

Now, when you break this down at every point. Who are the ones to benefit from all of this? Where are Arum and Teo from? When does anyone outside of the US and Mexico benefit? It's always the same people no matter what to benefit.

Not only was Warrington damaged goods after the Lara fights but Lopez didn't even win the fight. I had it a draw. John Ryder is a decent fringe level fighter which was legit. I have no problem with that one. But is this all you can come up with? Really? Does that not tell you anything?

Active is fighting at least every 6/7 months or so. Not a year and a half. But as you said being out keeps them fresh, why don't Americans and Mexicans keep themselves "Fresh" by staying out that long and going in against a top active fighter? Funny how they don't other than Mikey Garcia and Russell Jr who also lost due to the same circumstances. What happened there? Why didn't they win due to being "Fresh"?

Are you saying that all these inactive fighters are picked en mass because they are seen as being more dangerous due to being "Fresh"? They beat all the "Fresh" ones but lose to those who aren't as they are active? Strange that.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Crazy talk from the usual suspect. I can't be bothered to dignify your babble with quoting it because it's flat nonsense. There's no evidence for anything you've said other than that Taylor was inactive, but Taylor chose Lopez instead of the Catterall rematch he supposedly dropped three belts to get.

The FACT is that two of the judges called that beatdown 115-113. Lopez was one round away from being robbed in a fight he dominated. Lopez is the one who was beefing with Top Rank. There's zero reason for Arum to be fixing a fight in favor of Lopez, who he dislikes anyways. Taylor thought Lopez would be weaker like everyone else because Lopez hasn't looked impressive in his last three fights, but he screwed up.

Must be interesting in your fantasy world. You got Teo/Berlanga levels of delusion going on there if you legitimately think that you have any logic or facts. You haven't posted a shred of evidence for your wild claims.

[unknowledgeablepugilist]

Arum wanted Taylor to mess Catterall around and pull out with "Injuries" to get rid of Catterall and keep Taylor out of the ring for a long time while he kept Teo active. Arum didn't want that title going elsewhere and against his plans. Arum didn't go to the trouble to keep Catterall out of the top of the WBO rankings the first time for nothing. Nor did he go through the trouble of getting Teo into the mandatory spot after the Martin fight for the same reason. Martin was to prepare for Taylor being a southpaw but Teo went and lost. Not to worry, they just rip him off on the cards. Not forgetting Martin was brought in at short notice to look good on Teo's record and also being ill prepared. It just backfired because Teo just isn't that good. This is the same Teo that drew with Loma but got the massive UD in his favour.

Now, when you break this down at every point. Who are the ones to benefit from all of this? Where are Arum and Teo from? When does anyone outside of the US and Mexico benefit? It's always the same people no matter what to benefit.

Not only was Warrington damaged goods after the Lara fights but Lopez didn't even win the fight. I had it a draw. John Ryder is a decent fringe level fighter which was legit. I have no problem with that one. But is this all you can come up with? Really? Does that not tell you anything?

Active is fighting at least every 6/7 months or so. Not a year and a half. But as you said being out keeps them fresh, why don't Americans and Mexicans keep themselves "Fresh" by staying out that long and going in against a top active fighter? Funny how they don't other than Mikey Garcia and Russell Jr who also lost due to the same circumstances. What happened there? Why didn't they win due to being "Fresh"?

Are you saying that all these inactive fighters are picked en mass because they are seen as being more dangerous due to being "Fresh"? They beat all the "Fresh" ones but lose to those who aren't as they are active? Strange that.

So Taylor choose to be inactive not forced but choose inactivity even if Arum played a role in the thinking behind the decision, it was ultimately Taylor decision, which led to inactivity.

Also, I think Russell and Garcia lost due a various different circumstances but I do not believe inactivity was one of those reasons. Garcia was out-manoeuvred by Martin, being active wasn't going to teach Garcia how to cut off the ring. Russell shoulder gave out and he struggled with the physical attributes of Maysago those aren't going to be solved by being active.

I've never stated inactivity lead's to fighter being more or less fresh just the benefits of allowing the body and mind to heal; this is something fighters have brought up themselves. I think if a fighter lives the life, then inactivity shouldn't play a major role in a fighters overall performance but if a boxers using a training camp go get in shape, that's when the issue's arise. However, the root of the issue would be not living the life not inactivity.

Crawford, Spence, and Wilder have all had extended periods of time out the ring but there performances didn't seem overly impacted.

I think a crucial question here is outside of Lopez, what British fighters have been out the ring an extended period of time then took on a marquee fight? Let's look specifically at the last five years.

[Jab jab boom]

No one is anywhere near their best being out 16 months. That was the whole point of the fight happening. Bob and Teo set Taylor up. Just like the rest of the set ups that have been going on for years.

But you pretend otherwise. It's to your benefit with this perception.

. Welp, the stalker has returned for further embarrassment. The only one pretending is you. You’re making excuses for the ass whooping and you’re pretending Arum went out of his way to set Taylor up. Try and use as much of that limited brain as you can. Teo has trashed top tank and espn nonstop, there’s no way arum preferred Teo over Taylor and those shady scorecards prove it. Taylor got washed and somehow managed to get 2 close scorecards. The deck was stacked against Teo , not Taylor. Teo deserved to lose his previous fight, was a career lightweight, and at a significant size disadvantage, yet Taylor was somehow set up to lose? Foh. He just wasn’t good enough. You should be used to that realization being British and all. It’s the norm.

[Rebelrbg]

Will Taylor be inactive again like the Americans are looking for? If so, he'll likely lose. If not, it's pretty much guaranteed, you will lose. That's why you've been forced into this position in the first place. You can't compete at the top level without a loaded table. The facts see to that.

How do you feel about this level of cowardice? To me it looks degrading and humiliating. But then again, you've always been people who are about the perception. But i see you. I see it all.

Hilarious!!!

[Sid-Knee]

So Taylor choose to be inactive not forced but choose inactivity even if Arum played a role in the thinking behind the decision, it was ultimately Taylor decision, which led to inactivity.

Also, I think Russell and Garcia lost due a various different circumstances but I do not believe inactivity was one of those reasons. Garcia was out-manoeuvred by Martin, being active wasn't going to teach Garcia how to cut off the ring. Russell shoulder gave out and he struggled with the physical attributes of Maysago those aren't going to be solved by being active.

I've never stated inactivity lead's to fighter being more or less fresh just the benefits of allowing the body and mind to heal; this is something fighters have brought up themselves. I think if a fighter lives the life, then inactivity shouldn't play a major role in a fighters overall performance but if a boxers using a training camp go get in shape, that's when the issue's arise. However, the root of the issue would be not living the life not inactivity.

Crawford, Spence, and Wilder have all had extended periods of time out the ring but there performances didn't seem overly impacted.

I think a crucial question here is outside of Lopez, what British fighters have been out the ring an extended period of time then took on a marquee fight? Let's look specifically at the last five years.

Are you even reading my post? Taylor didn't really want the rematch with Catterall so Bob had him mess Jack around and stall him to force him to walk away. Bob then got Teo active and set things in motion. The Martin robbery and the mandatory WBO spot even though Teo couldn't claim the spot with a win over Martin even if it was legit. Which it wasn't.

I asked why Mexican and American fighters don't stay fresh by staying out of the ring too long and then fighting active fighters? They're doing it the other way round and looking for opponents that are inactive plus finding other ways to load the table. Only the US and Mexico are doing it and doing it en mass. Don't pretend you don't know why they're doing it. They know what benefits are on offer. They mostly duck those who are active. If they do take them on, they lose pretty much every single time.

You sure you can't find any more top wins for Americans and Mexicans ? I'm not interested in you asking a question to answer a question. You either have something or you don't. When you come up short, there's a reason for that.

Who did Crawford, Spence and Wilder fight supposedly being out for long periods of time?