Comments Thread For: Spence Says Crawford Fight Negotiations Grueling, Tough Obstacles Due To Terence's Demands

[champion4ever]

How did he price himself out if the fight got made??

I'll tell you how. This time he simply didn't have a choice. He ran out of options. He had no choice but to take Al's original offer that he had rejected the first time.

[MCFM]

PBChickens at Al's Barn still trying to pin this to crawfish even tho the fight is alrdu signed? Even tho we all know these quacks are the reason this was taking forever

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Funny how Spence also got no gautantee but didn't complain about it.

Only one person did.

That should tell you all you need to know about who really wanted the fight.

Damn....you are clueless homie.... Spence not getting a 'guarantee' (Make sure you spell it right if you are going to attempt to converse with adults) because he was ACTUALLY SIGNED WITH PBC. Do you not know how he gets paid.... Being that he's signed with the promotion company that was throwing the fight, he gets what's called a SHARED REVENUE check.........That is the reason he didn't complain about not getting a guarantee. Are you that simple minded or do you actually know nothing about how these fights are made....

Spence can get no guarantee but still get $10M-$15M from the PPV cut because PBC is his boss.... Crawford being a free agent could have wound up with $5M or less with that type of deal. Damn, you mfers are clueless but love to argue **** on behalf of your man crush......

Funny how Crawford standing his ground got both of them a guarantee PLUS shared revenue so that both of them leave out with more than $15M from this fight.......But you in a boxing forum trying to fault him.

That should tell you to keep your mouth shut and read up on how these contracts work.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

LOL, that is simple, nobody signed him. Berlanga which is a very hyped crappy fighter got more offers.

You must be confusing something. I believe that Bud is one of the bigger talents today. His career was wasted away by TR with promises of Pac and a rising Taylor fight that never materialized. He was paid handsomely for a Khan and Brook fight and he was not going backwards from there. He has no marquee name and the biggest name in his resume is a retiring Porter.

So what did I miss? I got tire of waiting for him to step up and then hiding behind negotiations. Same thing goes with Andrade. IF any of those two guys would had taken risks and won they would be in a much better position.

You should stop talking. You clearly are comfortable being a Man Fan and me educating you or even just pointing out the simple facts won't change you ignorance.

Crawford was offered MANY times to do dealing with 3 different major promotion companies that we know of. All of them were documented via interviews with the CEOs and or reps of those companies....But your simple ass is ignoring it because you love Spence so much. DeLaHoya, Bob Arum, & Floyd Mayweather are all on record of expressing interest and reaching out to Crawford to work with him since the Porter fight.

Bringing up Berlanga or Boo Boo has nothing to do with Crawford. Their situations aren't parallel. But clearly you don't know the difference.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

"You can't find a single active fighter not name Canelo who is more accomplished.." That is lavishing praise.

Crawford cleared out the division at LWW. This is not in dispute. Your facts on this point are noted.

Your efforts to big up Crawford's achievements in the WW division though are not facts. His resume is not right up there with Spence. He took a belt from a weak champion in Horn as soon as he moved up... and then proceeded to seek out no other champion.

The best fighter he has faced at WW was Shawn Porter, and even then Shawn Porter was literally done from boxing as a whole as soon as the fight was over. Amir Khan and Kell Brook were right at the end of their careers and shells of what they used to be. David Avensyan is a level below. Benavidez Jr has never been the same since the leg injury (and hasn't won a fight since). Dress it up whichever way you want, but Crawford's resume since moving up has been underwhelming for a fighter of his talents.

Everything I stated was factual but your undying love for Spence keeps you from accepting the reality...

You are willing to call Jeff Horn a weak champion even though he was undefeated....But you congratulate Spence for beating Porter who was carrying a belt that he failed to take off of Keith Thurman head to head.... He got the belt by beating another fighter who failed to take it from Thurman (Danny Garcia)..... So 2 losers fought for a vacant title...... Spence goes to war with Porter for 12 rounds to get that title......Then follows it up.....NOT BY FIGHTING CRAWFORD, but by fighting Danny......lol........Then he fights Ugas, who got his title LITERALLY handed to him by fighting NO ONE. He didn't even fight for a vacant title. He was simply given a title when Manny was stripped. He then defended it vs the 42 year old when he had a break in his political work....after a 2 year absence from fighting. Not to mention Ugas also lost to Porter......... Shall I also point out the fact Kell Brook was drained and coming off surgery....it's all documented and yet Spence wanted that fight immediately.......But he can have a car accident and receive ZERO major surgeries and take over a year off. Before fighting. He can get punched in the eye by a sparring partner and we don't see him for another 9 months.

So Spence's best wins are vs a bunch of losers who stumbled into a championship by chance...... But Jeff Horn, the undefeated champ who took his title from Manny Pacquaio was a weak champ........

I see you conveniently ignored the fact that Spence also fought old man Peterson, the 135lb'er Mikey Garcia, and not to mention Chris Algerie....who he brags about beating..... this is the same man who lost to Manny and Amir Khan. Remind me again, who Algieri beat that makes him better than Jeff Horn.....Jose Benavidez......Amir Khan......Kell Brook......Egdijius Kavaliauskas......David Avaneysan........Shawn Porter.

Let's also point out your ignorance. You seem like you just bark out silly **** that someone else chants without doing actual research.

First Jose Benavidez was shot in the leg August 25, 2016.....He's 3-2 since then.....You should try using your WiFi connection to educate yourself before ****ing at the computer on **** you clearly know nothing about.....Shot in 2016........fought Crawford 2 years later in October of 2018........Jose fought Matthew Strode and Frank Rojas.....stopped them both...before fighting Crawford. That's 3 fights after being shot......He only wore a SLEEVE....not a brace but sleeve on his knee when he fought Crawford......why was his leg not an excuse vs Strode and Rojas?........His leg wasn't a hindrance from those stoppages......Ironically he fought 2 more times after Crawford. Didn't wear the sleeves.....How bad is that leg if he's picking and choosing when to wear a sleeve......I have sparring footage from him in my gym vs one of my young fighters a week before the Crawford fight....He didn't wear a sleeve then either...... Stop the excuses.

Crawford is the same age as Porter, Brook, & Khan.....why do they get the excuse of being "at the end of their career" just because they got stopped by Crawford..... Your logic is ******..... Brook lost to Spence.....he's 4-1 since then....Only loss is to Crawford.......and of his 4 wins.....3 were by stoppage......

Again.....your emotions keep you from having a logical conversation with me..... You love that man too much. A man who doesn't even know you exist. That's pathetic...... I gave you the facts.....I can't do much else.......Moving on.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Well said. It's crazy how people get indignant about Crawford negotiating for the best deal as a professional fighter is supposed to do.

100 percent correct about these man fans on this site too.

Exactly... They act like he is suppose to just accept what someone tells him he's going to get. His actions got him the pay out and fight that he wanted. So everyone else's opinion doesn't matter (as if it ever did).

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Nice try, but Spence said in the Ugas press conference that he was joking about the 80/20 and 70/30 and said he was gonna negotiate in good faith with Crawford after he gets passed Ugas, which is exactly what he did.

You can put the blame on Haymon, but never on Spence.

Spence is the one who made this fight happen. Not Crawford, not Haymon, Spence.

Both Crawford and Haymon were full of BS.

Haymon even tried to force Spence to fight Thurman but Spence stood his ground.

I won't accept any lies told about Spence


"I told Al I want Crawford or I'm not fighting"

He said this before the Ugas fight and guess what, he did exactly what he said, refused to fight anybody if it wasn't Crawford.

"Never means never!"

He said this when Al tried to make him fight Thurman, guess, what, he didn't budge and he didn't fight Thurman.

"Everybody knows the fight I want, I want Terence Crawford. It's the fight I want, its the fight everybody want! Terence I'm coming for that mtf belt!"

Gues what? Spence is coming baby!

Yawl can trie and spit lies with your snake tongues, but the TRUTH always come out, and it's coming out on July 29th baby!

Spence wins by demolition, body snatchiny, eye snatching, and KTFO!

What exactly did Spence do to make the fight happen other than ANSWER the phone?..........Guess who made the call.

You must have some strong ass knees the way you love to praise your Man Crush Spence......lol.

Spence is a puppet. He didn't make nothing happen. He simply was obligated to get the fight done because his options were Crawford, Ennis, Thurman, Ortiz.......all are talented....Crawford was the only one to have something to gain if he was to win. We know he's not going to move up just yet.....His "cheerleader" has all the belts at 154 currently. We know he's not going to fight him.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

You're free to recognize his win over Jeff Horn and feel the way you do.

Most actual fans don't have him anywhere near #1.

Boxing Fans and the sport have him at #1.... You simple ass Man Fans are the ones who don't want to accept it. He's a 3 division champ. 2x Fighter of the Year. 2x Lineal champ. Former Undisputed. 6x world title holder. ESPY Award winner.............And has stopped his last 10 opponents bringing his KOs to 70%.

Spence is the #3 p4p fighter.....yet you don't dispute that........of the accomplishments I pointed out for Crawford.....How many of them are duplicated by Spence.......I'll wait......

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Tell us about it Errol. Dud never wanted the fight. He just wanted a retirement package. Crawford deliberately priced himself out of the fight. He knew Al was never going to pay him a $25 Mil guarantee. The PBC doesn't do guaranteed contracts.

Where TF did he demand $25M......you need to start doing your own research and stop regurgitating the most ignorant rumors on these boards.... Crawford's demand was never a specific amount. He demanded a fair split.

Looks like he got what he wants so y'all crying about his actions sound ****** because Spence is happen with the results as well.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Does anyone know what these outrageous demands were this time? I seem to have missed the details.

Nobody knows what the "demands" were on this board....but some of these lying ass Man Fans will be happen to fabricate some for you......lol.