Comments Thread For: Spence Says Crawford Fight Negotiations Grueling, Tough Obstacles Due To Terence's Demands

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

I'll tell you how. This time he simply didn't have a choice. He ran out of options. He had no choice but to take Al's original offer that he had rejected the first time.

Al's original offer had no guarantee.......

You are going to have to make your lies seem a little bit more believable before hitting send....... Go ahead try again.....Give us the details that you know, because you obviously were apart of the process right.......:lol:

[Monty Fisto]

Everything I stated was factual but your undying love for Spence keeps you from accepting the reality...

You are willing to call Jeff Horn a weak champion even though he was undefeated....But you congratulate Spence for beating Porter who was carrying a belt that he failed to take off of Keith Thurman head to head.... He got the belt by beating another fighter who failed to take it from Thurman (Danny Garcia)..... So 2 losers fought for a vacant title...... Spence goes to war with Porter for 12 rounds to get that title......Then follows it up.....NOT BY FIGHTING CRAWFORD, but by fighting Danny......lol........Then he fights Ugas, who got his title LITERALLY handed to him by fighting NO ONE. He didn't even fight for a vacant title. He was simply given a title when Manny was stripped. He then defended it vs the 42 year old when he had a break in his political work....after a 2 year absence from fighting. Not to mention Ugas also lost to Porter......... Shall I also point out the fact Kell Brook was drained and coming off surgery....it's all documented and yet Spence wanted that fight immediately.......But he can have a car accident and receive ZERO major surgeries and take over a year off. Before fighting. He can get punched in the eye by a sparring partner and we don't see him for another 9 months.

So Spence's best wins are vs a bunch of losers who stumbled into a championship by chance...... But Jeff Horn, the undefeated champ who took his title from Manny Pacquaio was a weak champ........

I see you conveniently ignored the fact that Spence also fought old man Peterson, the 135lb'er Mikey Garcia, and not to mention Chris Algerie....who he brags about beating..... this is the same man who lost to Manny and Amir Khan. Remind me again, who Algieri beat that makes him better than Jeff Horn.....Jose Benavidez......Amir Khan......Kell Brook......Egdijius Kavaliauskas......David Avaneysan........Shawn Porter.

Let's also point out your ignorance. You seem like you just bark out silly **** that someone else chants without doing actual research.

First Jose Benavidez was shot in the leg August 25, 2016.....He's 3-2 since then.....You should try using your WiFi connection to educate yourself before ****ing at the computer on **** you clearly know nothing about.....Shot in 2016........fought Crawford 2 years later in October of 2018........Jose fought Matthew Strode and Frank Rojas.....stopped them both...before fighting Crawford. That's 3 fights after being shot......He only wore a SLEEVE....not a brace but sleeve on his knee when he fought Crawford......why was his leg not an excuse vs Strode and Rojas?........His leg wasn't a hindrance from those stoppages......Ironically he fought 2 more times after Crawford. Didn't wear the sleeves.....How bad is that leg if he's picking and choosing when to wear a sleeve......I have sparring footage from him in my gym vs one of my young fighters a week before the Crawford fight....He didn't wear a sleeve then either...... Stop the excuses.

Crawford is the same age as Porter, Brook, & Khan.....why do they get the excuse of being "at the end of their career" just because they got stopped by Crawford..... Your logic is ******..... Brook lost to Spence.....he's 4-1 since then....Only loss is to Crawford.......and of his 4 wins.....3 were by stoppage......

Again.....your emotions keep you from having a logical conversation with me..... You love that man too much. A man who doesn't even know you exist. That's pathetic...... I gave you the facts.....I can't do much else.......Moving on.

You're guilty of the precisely the same things you accuse me of. The length of your diatribe and the hysterical tone speaks to your emotion on the subject. I don't love Spence; I just have eyes enough to recognise the fighter in the division who unified multiple belts versus the fighter who took the belt off Horn after he received a very questionable decision against Pacquaio. That's pretty simple. And three belt is objectively more than one, where I come from.

Believe me, I am far more neutral regarding this fight and look forward to finding out who is the better fighter of the two. I worry you might have a breakdown if Crawford loses though.

[Doubledagger]

Damn....you are clueless homie.... Spence not getting a 'guarantee' (Make sure you spell it right if you are going to attempt to converse with adults) because he was ACTUALLY SIGNED WITH PBC. Do you not know how he gets paid.... Being that he's signed with the promotion company that was throwing the fight, he gets what's called a SHARED REVENUE check.........That is the reason he didn't complain about not getting a guarantee. Are you that simple minded or do you actually know nothing about how these fights are made....

Spence can get no guarantee but still get $10M-$15M from the PPV cut because PBC is his boss.... Crawford being a free agent could have wound up with $5M or less with that type of deal. Damn, you mfers are clueless but love to argue **** on behalf of your man crush......

Funny how Crawford standing his ground got both of them a guarantee PLUS shared revenue so that both of them leave out with more than $15M from this fight.......But you in a boxing forum trying to fault him.

That should tell you to keep your mouth shut and read up on how these contracts work.

PBC is not a promotional company dumb ass, it's a network.

Maybe you should know the actual content before correcting people about their spelling.

Also, your whole argument is BS.

Stephen Espinoza came out and revealed that Bud was given transparency and lied about it.

Bud said he would only accept no gaurantee if there was transparency about expenditure


The contract he got gave him transparency.

Espinoza said so, and Spence Spence said so. Spence even dared him to post the contract on media if he denies it and Crawford didn't reply cause he knew what's up.

You can't get cheated and get 5m if you have transperency about expenditure and revenue.

Nice try though...kid.

[STREET CLEANER]

You should stop talking. You clearly are comfortable being a Man Fan and me educating you or even just pointing out the simple facts won't change you ignorance.

Crawford was offered MANY times to do dealing with 3 different major promotion companies that we know of. All of them were documented via interviews with the CEOs and or reps of those companies....But your simple ass is ignoring it because you love Spence so much. DeLaHoya, Bob Arum, & Floyd Mayweather are all on record of expressing interest and reaching out to Crawford to work with him since the Porter fight.

Bringing up Berlanga or Boo Boo has nothing to do with Crawford. Their situations aren't parallel. But clearly you don't know the difference.

Now I really know that you are in LaLa Land. You can have the last word. Accusing me of what you are.

[CodeBreaker]

You're free to recognize his win over Jeff Horn and feel the way you do.

Most actual fans don't have him anywhere near #1.

And I don't even have him as #1

just look at it from his perspective. If he's being named #1 P4P by majority of the media, then you'd understand why he will refuse to be the B-side.

[Combat Talk Radio]

And I don't even have him as #1

just look at it from his perspective. If he's being named #1 P4P by majority of the media, then you'd understand why he will refuse to be the B-side.

I would, except that Inoue seems to have very little problem getting fights booked. He's been Top 3 for a minute.

Crawford is the only fighter in the modern era other than Tyson Fury who seems to always have problems getting the fights he claims to want.

Remember, when Arum claimed on video after a fight - I believe it was Brook - he was trying to get the Spence fight done, PBC doesn't want it, Spence is scared, Crawford wants it, etc., Crawford stood right next to him and contradicted him, saying he wanted Pacquiao. On video.

[BoZz]

I don't think terrence should have the right for any demands, dude has a 39-0 record and only holds some weak ass belt haha

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

You're guilty of the precisely the same things you accuse me of. The length of your diatribe and the hysterical tone speaks to your emotion on the subject. I don't love Spence; I just have eyes enough to recognise the fighter in the division who unified multiple belts versus the fighter who took the belt off Horn after he received a very questionable decision against Pacquaio. That's pretty simple. And three belt is objectively more than one, where I come from.

Believe me, I am far more neutral regarding this fight and look forward to finding out who is the better fighter of the two. I worry you might have a breakdown if Crawford loses though.

The difference between me and you is I pointed out FACTS.... you pushing your emotional opinions. You can cry about Horn getting a "questionable" decision over Manny, but what the record books show is Horn winning the title.... Manny couldn't stop him in the 9th..... who's fault is that. Crawford didn't leave it up to the judges. Manny was bullied and pushed around (many illegal tactics admittedly)...... Crawford smacked that boy around. Plain and simple.

You are willing to question how Horn got his title, but you ignore that Porter was carrying a title he failed to take from Thurman. He fought another individual who failed to do the same to get it.. You ignore the fact that Ugas was given his title..........No only thing you acknowledge is......"Spence got 3 titles".......lol......The definition of a fan boy. Ignore any facts that don't add to the hype of your Man Crush....... It's all good.

We can end the conversation. Hopefully we can pick it back up after the fight if you are willing to come back around.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

PBC is not a promotional company dumb ass, it's a network.

Maybe you should know the actual content before correcting people about their spelling.

Also, your whole argument is BS.

Stephen Espinoza came out and revealed that Bud was given transparency and lied about it.

Bud said he would only accept no gaurantee if there was transparency about expenditure


The contract he got gave him transparency.

Espinoza said so, and Spence Spence said so. Spence even dared him to post the contract on media if he denies it and Crawford didn't reply cause he knew what's up.

You can't get cheated and get 5m if you have transperency about expenditure and revenue.

Nice try though...kid.

***** I said Spence is SIGNED to PBC.....is he not...... Are they not the ones who provide his income. And Stephen Espinoza did not come out and say transparency was give clown.... He actually confirmed that fighters "NORMALLY AREN'T GIVEN PRIVILEGES" in that manner. Which is why the interviewer responded, "but isn't he promoting himself?".....

What Stephen actually exposed was the fact that BLK Prime reached out to them to try and make the Spence fight and he pointed out that Crawford wasn't signed to them so they didn't need to work with BLK to make the fight happen...... Simple mfer, the **** is still up on YouTube.

Spence dared him to do something he legally couldn't do you ignorant ****..... As you can see, Spence didn't post the contract to prove him wrong. There are certain things that aren't public if it's still in the hands of lawyers, but your ignorant ass wouldn't know that because you use your WiFi to argue with strangers about **** you know nothing about.

You tried it..... It's all good. You clowns will disappear in a month. Til Then......

Get your ****** ass up out of here.

[Doubledagger]

***** I said Spence is SIGNED to PBC.....is he not...... Are they not the ones who provide his income. And Stephen Espinoza did not come out and say transparency was give clown.... He actually confirmed that fighters "NORMALLY AREN'T GIVEN PRIVILEGES" in that manner. Which is why the interviewer responded, "but isn't he promoting himself?".....

What Stephen actually exposed was the fact that BLK Prime reached out to them to try and make the Spence fight and he pointed out that Crawford wasn't signed to them so they didn't need to work with BLK to make the fight happen...... Simple mfer, the **** is still up on YouTube.

Spence dared him to do something he legally couldn't do you ignorant ****..... As you can see, Spence didn't post the contract to prove him wrong. There are certain things that aren't public if it's still in the hands of lawyers, but your ignorant ass wouldn't know that because you use your WiFi to argue with strangers about **** you know nothing about.

You tried it..... It's all good. You clowns will disappear in a month. Til Then......

Get your ****** ass up out of here.

Again you lied blatantly.

Espinoza said fighters are not given the privilege to DICTATE promotional expenditure, but giving them transparancy is rudimentary and isn't a problem.

Now you get YOUR ****** ass out of here!