Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn Hits Back at Bob Arum: Top Rank Are Completely Finished, ESPN Contract Gone!

[DClefthook]

this all day. There are dozens of other sports and entertainment options competing for eyeballs in USA. Most don’t involve punching someone in the face. And it’s got zero appeal to women. USA leagues like hockey, basketball, NFL - get some women. Go to the events or to a pub to watch. Not a ton but some women. Boxing gets almost zero. And you’re second tier if you don’t appeal to some away small amount. They are 50% of population

Correct. A boxer like AJ in the UK can get a lot of attention because there is not a lot of other sports to compete with save for futbol, or do you guys call it football? Fuq it I'll just say soccer. But in the States boxers are wayyyyy down on the popularity list compared to other athletes. Why do you think the Spence Bud fight wasn't done in November and they waited for July? There is no NFL or NBA going on in July just boring azz baseball. That way they will get max exposure.

[DClefthook]

Eddie is DAZN's director of boxing, not football! Whether the billions that DAZN spent on football rights last last year pays off or not, those deals had nothing to do with Eddie Hearn.

If Eddie is losing DAZN so much money, why did they strike a new 5 year deal with him in 2021 then extend it by another 3 years last month?

https://www.boxingscene.com/matchroo...-deals--174299

Well I'll tell you why. First of all you're dead wrong. They struck a 5 yr deal in 2018 which was set to expire in 2023. They extended it for 3 years last month to 2026. If Hearn can't get anything going then The American takeover will be officially over in 2026. And if this recent Regis Prograis debacle is any indication of things to come for the next 3 years then buddy you Cann call it a wrap!

[kafkod]

He didn't want a rematch with Usyk because he probably wanted to move on to AJ or something idk i'm not his promoter but if Usyk was so confident in himself why did he need a rematch clause? he could of won Furys belt and went on his merry way he played himself, listen if he said to Fury okay no rematch then he would have Fury cornered with nowhere to run but instead he said **** it and backed out of the negotiation the fight was right there for the taking. As i said Fury is an idiot and i know he talks out his ass a lot but Usyk is to blame for the fight not happening also.

The rematch clause was only there in the first place because Fury asked for it. Frank Warren admitted that.

Usyk accepted 70/30 - after 50/50 had been initially agreed by both sides - on condition that, if he won the first fight, the rematch split would be 70/30 in his favour. That was a very fair response to Fury's goalpost moving from from a guy who was clearly confident of winning. Or at least, willing to put his money where his mouth is and roll the dice. But Fury wanted the rematch split to be 50/50 if Usyk won fight one and 70/30 in his favour again if he won.

Those facts speak for themselves loud and clear to anyone with a brain in his head who isn't a biased fan boy. I was one of the biggest Fury fans on this forum till he pulled this bullshit, but not going to be a fanboy sheep, blindly supporting him whatever he does.

[Kzbox]

The rematch clause was only there in the first place because Fury asked for it. Frank Warren admitted that.

Usyk accepted 70/30 - after 50/50 - had been initially agreed by both sides - on condition that, if he won the first fight, the rematch split would be 70/30 in his favour. That was a very fair response to Fury's goalpost moving from from a guy who was clearly confident of winning the fight. But Fury wanted the rematch split to be 50/50 if Usyk won fight one and 70/30 in his favour again if he won.

Those facts speak for themselves loud and clear to anyone with a brain in his head who isn't a biased fan boy. I was one of the biggest Fury fans on this forum till he pulled this bullshit, but not going to be fanboy sheep, blindly supporting him whatever he does.

You keep saying that but i read it the first time he then didn't want a rematch so Usyk could of just agreed to no rematch after the fact and you saying biased when i clearly said Fury is an idiot and **** talker doesn't change the fact Usyk should of just said **** it no rematch 30 - 70 lets do it i look at things as they are you can't say Fury doesn't have faith for risking 70 - 30 Usyk shouldn't even be entitled to and Usyk does yet he won't fight without a rematch that's actual bias.

Dunno where you getting the Usyk wanted 50 - 50 in the rematch and Fury asked for 70 - 30 i'm pretty sure it was Usyk saying it should be 70 - 30 in his favour if he wins the first fight.

[sicko]

...meanwhile the one people been hoping, wishing and praying against PBC and Showtime are delivering the biggest fights in boxing and working on more big fights through out the rest of the year

time for people to just admit that they was wrong and Bet on the wrong Horse and give credit

PBC Played the long game and built up some STARS and BY FAR the most noticeable Names in the sport particularly here in North America, while despite having a Network as huge as ESPN, Top Rank haven't built not 1 PPV Star or Superstar in this sport this entire time so something is not adding up. Top Rank have all my Favorite Prospects too, Shu Shu, Jared Anderson, Keyshawn all those guys but the reality is once they ready step up and start looking around for those big fights...Top Rank won't deliver and instead will try to feed them some average opponent that absolutely nobody cares about which is exactly why Berlanga left

So these Promotions need to focus on their own and stop Worrying about everybody else is doing. PBC putting their heads down and delivering while these 2 are Bickering back and forth about who is worse

[kafkod]

Well I'll tell you why. First of all you're dead wrong. They struck a 5 yr deal in 2018 which was set to expire in 2023. They extended it for 3 years last month to 2026. If Hearn can't get anything going then The American takeover will be officially over in 2026. And if this recent Regis Prograis debacle is any indication of things to come for the next 3 years then buddy you Cann call it a wrap!

https://www.dazn.com/en-GLOBAL/news/...r1xk0g0l65di0a

"this recent Regis Prograis debacle"

Get real mate, ffs!

[Straightener]

It's having a reason to get out of bed every day that keeps you alive until your 90s. Most people don't and most people die before they are 90. I'm not sure Arum looks at it as work - I think he gets a real buzz out of the cut and thrust of promoting. I also thing he loves being around younger people and that in general being around younger people keeps you younger just as a young person continually around older people it will make them older - often in a good way as they get wisdom and maturity beyond their years - but sometimes in a bad way and they become boring.

I hear you . Different strokes for different folks

Soon as I can kick back I will , old man retired at 55 and has been living a top one since . That’s the goal for me , make coin early and chill the rest of my days

[kafkod]

You keep saying that but i read it the first time he then didn't want a rematch so Usyk could of just agreed to no rematch after the fact and you saying biased when i clearly said Fury is an idiot and **** talker doesn't change the fact Usyk should of just said **** it no rematch 30 - 70 lets do it i look at things as they are you can't say Fury doesn't have faith for risking 70 - 30 Usyk shouldn't even be entitled to and Usyk does yet he won't fight without a rematch that's actual bias.

Dunno where you getting the Usyk wanted 50 - 50 in the rematch and Fury asked for 70 - 30 i'm pretty sure it was Usyk saying it should be 70 - 30 in his favour if he wins the first fight.

I said the initial deal, agreed by both sides, was a 50/50 split, with no rematch clause. Fury asked for a rematch clause and Usyk agreed to that. After Fury went back on the 50/50 agreement, Usyk accepted 70/30 to Fury on condition that the split would be reversed if he, Usyk, won the first fight. Fury wouldn't have that and insisted that he should get 50% in the rematch even if he lost the first fight.

Like I said, that tells you who was willing to put his money where his mouth is and roll the dice, and who wasn't. If Fury believed he was going to win the first fight, why wouldn't he agree to 70/30 for the winner in a rematch?

[Kzbox]

I said the initial deal, agreed by both sides, was a 50/50 split, with no rematch clause. Fury asked for a rematch clause and Usyk agreed to that. After Fury went back on the 50/50 agreement, Usyk accepted 70/30 to Fury on condition that the split would be reversed if he, Usyk, won the first fight. Fury wouldn't have that and insisted that he should get 50% in the rematch even if he lost the first fight.

Like I said, that tells you who was willing to put his money where his mouth is and roll the dice, and who wasn't. If Fury believed he was going to win the first fight, why wouldn't he agree to 70/30 for the winner in a rematch?

Fury just didn't want to give a man who doesn't deserve 70% that percentage win or not i don't blame him Usyk isn't a seller that's why he didn't want the fight without a rematch clause because he knows Fury will bring in the fans not him so he can cash out with that 70% and he doesn't have enough faith in himself to win the first fight so he wants a second roll of the dice going by your standard of belief. As i said before Fury made things overly complicated but Usyk could of got the deal done if he wanted but he wanted that rematch for a reason.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Spank his arse for you!

He doesn’t love you back mate.