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  • kafkod
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    #131
    Originally posted by Kzbox

    I'm not a "fan boy" i just tell it like it is at the end of the day boxing is a business and fighters have their worth Usyk doesn't sell many tickets and until recently had next to no fans now everybody is on his **** he's still not a big seller if it was AJ yeah 60 - 40 or even 50 - 50 but Usyk? has less market value.
    And yet, when Frank Warren proudly announced that Fury vs Usyk was a done deal, he said the purse split was going to be 50/50.

    Strange that, innit?

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      #132
      Hey buddy, why don't you read the link you sent. It clearly states that the 5 year deal they signed in 2021 was for the UK not the US! Dammit

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        #133
        Originally posted by kafkod

        And yet, when Frank Warren proudly announced that Fury vs Usyk was a done deal, he said the purse split was going to be 50/50.

        Strange that, innit?
        Frank is an idiot for saying that and if you really believe Usyk deserves 50/50 then you are biased to a point of ******ity we all know he doesn't sell half the tickets gtfoh as i say cuz its fashionable to hate Fury the "business side" can't be used as a reason like it would if it was a fighter you like telling another fighter to gtfoh trying to get more of the pie than he's worth.

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          #134
          Originally posted by DClefthook

          Hey buddy, why don't you read the link you sent. It clearly states that the 5 year deal they signed in 2021 was for the UK not the US! Dammit
          Yes, DAZN gave Eddie a new 5 year deal in the UK in 2021 and now they have given him a new 3 year deal in Mexico and the US.

          If you were running a business, and one of your employees was doing a lousy job and (allegedly) losing you billions of dollars every year, would you keep extending his contracts, or would you get rid of him as soon as you were legally able to?

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            #135
            Originally posted by Kzbox

            Frank is an idiot for saying that and if you really believe Usyk deserves 50/50 then you are biased to a point of ******ity we all know he doesn't sell half the tickets gtfoh as i say cuz its fashionable to hate Fury the "business side" can't be used as a reason like it would if it was a fighter you like telling another fighter to gtfoh trying to get more of the pie than he's worth.
            Frank is an idiot for saying that? And what about Bob Arum? Because he said exactly the same thing. https://www.boxingscene.com/report-f...-given--168679

            And what about this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...Usyk-next.html

            Dam! Fury said it too!

            Were you calling them all idiots and sounding off about Usyk not deserving a 50/50 split when the deal was first announced? Or did you only start doing it after Fury changed his mind and took control of your mind?




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              #136
              Originally posted by kafkod
              If Eddie is losing DAZN so much money, why did they strike a new 5 year deal with him in 2021 then extend it by another 3 years last month?

              https://www.boxingscene.com/matchroo...-deals--174299
              After watching DAZN admit they've lost $2.3 billion (thanks to their own decision making), that might not be the smartest question to ask ... LoL!

              https://www.boxingscene.com/dazn-los...on%20Wednesday.

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                #137
                Originally posted by kafkod

                Frank is an idiot for saying that? And what about Bob Arum? Because he said exactly the same thing. https://www.boxingscene.com/report-f...-given--168679

                And what about this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/bo...Usyk-next.html

                Dam! Fury said it too!

                Were you calling them all idiots and sounding off about Usyk not deserving a 50/50 split when the deal was first announced? Or did you only start doing it after Fury changed his mind and took control of your mind?



                I’m saying Usyk doesn’t deserve 50% thats why he wasn’t offered 50% in the real negotiations that’s just words.

                Im done with this conversation now though we just going around and around it’s pointless we never going to agree.

                You can believe Fury is petrified of Usyk i think that’s pure bollocks and Usyk is overrated as a Heavyweight has only beat Chisora (rough night), witherspoon and timid AJ.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  You sound like you are in your thirties or early forties, maybe even late 20s. Lets see how yu feel when you are in your sixties and retired 7/8 years - chilling can get boring
                  36 . 7 years left on the mortgage

                  Gonna slog hard and do the same as the old man . He’s been retired 10 years and loving it




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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Kzbox

                    I’m saying Usyk doesn’t deserve 50% thats why he wasn’t offered 50% in the real negotiations that’s just words.

                    Im done with this conversation now though we just going around and around it’s pointless we never going to agree.

                    You can believe Fury is petrified of Usyk i think that’s pure bollocks and Usyk is overrated as a Heavyweight has only beat Chisora (rough night), witherspoon and timid AJ.
                    Unbelievable!

                    You are seriously saying that 2 of the smartest and most experienced promoters in the game would begin negotiations by telling the other side, and the media, that the opponent deserved a significantly bigger slice of the pie than they intended to let him have?

                    Really? Like, hard ball negotiation tactics, but in reverse? Start off by telling the other side that the purse split will be 50/50 ... then offer them 30%, take it or leave it?

                    GTFOH with that nonsense!

                    The truth is that Usyk is worth 50% because he has 3 of the HW title belts plus the Ring title, and he got paid more for his last fight than Fury has ever earned for any fight in his career.

                    Arum, Warren and even Fury himself knew that and fans like you accepted it as a fact until Fury moved the goalposts and told you to start believing something else. It never ceases to amaze me how gullible and easily manipulated some boxing fans are!
                    Last edited by kafkod; 05-30-2023, 07:25 AM.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Kzbox

                      I’m saying Usyk doesn’t deserve 50% thats why he wasn’t offered 50% in the real negotiations that’s just words.

                      Im done with this conversation now though we just going around and around it’s pointless we never going to agree.

                      You can believe Fury is petrified of Usyk i think that’s pure bollocks and Usyk is overrated as a Heavyweight has only beat Chisora (rough night), witherspoon and timid AJ.
                      Of course I don't believe Fury is petrified of Usyk.

                      But I am 100% certain that he knows Usyk would be a very difficult opponent for him and he wants to make as much money as possible from his WBC title and unbeaten record against easier opponents, like AJ, before taking the risk of losing them to Usyk.

                      I also believe that Fury believes time is on his side, and the longer he stalls and wastes time before fighting Usyk, the better his chances of winning the fight will be.
                      Last edited by kafkod; 05-30-2023, 07:22 AM.

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