Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce Exercises Rematch Clause For Zhilei Zhang

[IronDanHamza]

How? He can't get away from the left hand, doesn't have head movement or much defense at all, he's abnormally slow, and he doesn't have one punch knock out power, so that takes away the puncher's chance. Joyce is going to take a brutal beating.

Try and avoid his eye swelling, weather the storm better for the first 6 rounds as Zhang only really has 6 good rounds in him.

The tide was turning in the first fight, just by then too much damage was done.

[Rebelrbg]

Try and avoid his eye swelling, weather the storm better for the first 6 rounds as Zhang only really has 6 good rounds in him.

The tide was turning in the first fight, just by then too much damage was done.

I agree with Zhang's gas tank being 6 or 7 good rounds, but I don't think Joyce has ever fought patiently enough to weather any storm. As a matter of fact, he's constantly throwing punches without any real strategy. He eventually breaks down his opponents because they can't pace themselves enough to last, but in the process, Joe is taking major leather, and mostly to the face. Zhang is too big and strong for Joyce to take those types of bombs for 6 or 7 rounds.

[IronDanHamza]

I agree with Zhang's gas tank being 6 or 7 good rounds, but I don't think Joyce has ever fought patiently enough to weather any storm. As a matter of fact, he's constantly throwing punches without any real strategy. He eventually breaks down his opponents because they can't pace themselves enough to last, but in the process, Joe is taking major leather, and mostly to the face. Zhang is too big and strong for Joyce to take those types of bombs for 6 or 7 rounds.

He fought patiently against Dubois. But he just needs to not try and blast through him and be less careless.

The tide was turning in the first fight and Joyce wasn't far behind on the cards either, it's a winnable fight for him.

The beauty of it is we'll find out.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree with this.

Joyce will beat Zhang if he can take him into deep waters and make his superior stamina count. But he may have to go through hell for 5 or 6 rounds to do it, and just pray that he doesn't get stopped again with facial damage before Zhang gasses.,

I can envision the rematch going the full 12 rounds.

It is clear Zhang has punching power that can breach Joyce's threshold.

So? I was honestly expecting Joyce to fight Zhang the same way he fought Dubois.

In that fight vs Dubios, Joyce's defense and awareness was the best it has ever been.

Joyce was still getting whacked by Dubois, but he was fighting a really disciplined fight 'Solid Jab and movement. Joyce seem to be actively trying to avoid Dubois attacks instead of just wading through the power'.

Those are the revised tactics, I am expecting from Joyce. I think coming into the first fight, the hype he received from his win vs Parker 'May have been taken too literally'.

Parker is a big puncher, but Zhang is a level above etc.

[BlackRobb]

You are reading a lot more into what I'm saying than I'm actually saying.

Step left away from Zhang's left and just keep circling. An occasional jab, an occasional sweeping right. Make the big man move for the first half of the fight. No, Joyce is not going to reinvent himself as a fighter but he can do one simple thing that he did not do at all the first time around.

So you really believe someone who calls himself "The Juggernaut" is actually going to trouble himself with technical adjustments?

[4truth]

So you really believe someone who calls himself "The Juggernaut" is actually going to trouble himself with technical adjustments?

I think the idea of making an adjustment got pounded into his head, yes.

[Willow The Wisp]

Joyce should take the step aside money and let boxing be bigger than the UK. Joyce has some high capabilities as he demonstrated against Parker, and there are boatloads of good heavyweights that he is capable of smashing to bits!
Zhilei Zhang isn't one of them.

[Tecnoworld]

Very dangerous fight but probably the only chance for jj

[JakeTheBoxer]

Try and avoid his eye swelling, weather the storm better for the first 6 rounds as Zhang only really has 6 good rounds in him.

The tide was turning in the first fight, just by then too much damage was done.

Will he learn how to protect his face over night?

If not, Zhang destroys his face again.

[Willow The Wisp]

I can envision the rematch going the full 12 rounds.

It is clear Zhang has punching power that can breach Joyce's threshold.

So? I was honestly expecting Joyce to fight Zhang the same way he fought Dubois.

In that fight vs Dubios, Joyce's defense and awareness was the best it has ever been.

Joyce was still getting whacked by Dubois, but he was fighting a really disciplined fight 'Solid Jab and movement. Joyce seem to be actively trying to avoid Dubois attacks instead of just wading through the power'.

Those are the revised tactics, I am expecting from Joyce. I think coming into the first fight, the hype he received from his win vs Parker 'May have been taken too literally'.

Parker is a big puncher, but Zhang is a level above etc.

Agreed. Important to note too as we segue to discussions about Joe Joyce and his deficiencies is that Zhilei Zhang has been a slightly better fighter than Joseph Parker back to when he beat Parker at the AIBA World Championships in 2011.