Comments Thread For: Hearn: Canelo Rematch At 175 Biggest Fight For Bivol By A Mile; Hope He Accepts The Challenge

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  • champion4ever
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    #51
    Now why on God's green earth should Bivol turn down such an easy fight against Canelo? He's already beaten his ass once. He's gonna beat his ass some more. However, it's Alvarez' choice.

    Alvarez doesn't have to go this route. I don't like seeing him over matched no more than I like seeing him over matching all of these limited and overachieving opponents he likes to fight.

    As a boxing fan and not some racial tribalist; I prefer 50/50 competitive and even match ups. Therefore, the man he should fight is David Benavidez. That's more of a 50/50 fight than this one. He would at least have more than half a chance of defeating him.

    He has absolutely no chance of winning this one. I don't understand Canelo. What does he has to prove? He knows he can't win this fight. I believe he is only coming to this fight to lay down and lose.​
    Last edited by champion4ever; 05-08-2023, 05:26 PM.

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    • QballLobo
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      #52
      Originally posted by Rebelrbg

      What you're not understanding is money isn't the end all for everyone, Bivol doesn't seem money hungry at all, if so, he would have accepted the fight on Canelo's terms already. Bivol has the option NOT to give Cinnabon what he wants, and he can force Hearn to make the fight against Beterbiev without the WBC belt on the line, but going for unification of the others. Remember, Hearn works for Bivol, not the other way around, and as the fighter, Bivol can make demands from his promoter.
      That may be true but that still doesn’t change the fact that he has no leverage to force terms on Canelo.
      Even with the win it hasn’t changed Bivol’s spot much. He’s not a mainstream name and likely will never be.

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      • greeneye99
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        #53
        Originally posted by Count Madison
        what part of him fighting canelo is a 'challenge?' he barely needed to get out of second gear in the first fight... hence why he wants it at 168 and to fight canelo whilst hes weight drained to see if he can give him a chance.... its like when i used to play my ex at tennis i used to only play with my left hand otherwise its boring and too easy otherwise
        You think Bivol wants to fight Canelo at 168 to give him a chance
        Lololololol
        Buddy
        Bivol wants to fight canelo for one reason only "The Belts"

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        • Cool story
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          #54
          Originally posted by Rebelrbg

          You must not have seen how Cinnabon looked against Ryder. Bivol will whoop Canelo's ass at either weight, but he wants to fight for Canelo's belts, the same way that he put his title on the line for Canelo.
          Jermall charlo has went 12 rounds with dudes that have been knocked out before with out even really hurting them
          didn’t David go 12 with plant couldn’t drop one time
          canelo finished a undefeated plant


          canelo dropped Ryder 2 times and hurt him multiple times

          worry about Spence who is running from bud

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          • Monty Fisto
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            #55
            Originally posted by Brian T
            Hearn says, "Canelo Rematch At 175 Biggest Fight For Bivol By A Mile".

            I say, "Canelo's rematch with Bivol at 168, with Super Middle weigh​ belts on the line is the best fight for him and boxing by a 100 miles.

            Beterbiev for undisputed at 175 is the best fight for Bivol by a mile, but the implication is that it's not available. Nor is 168 vs Canelo, by implication.

            It is clear that Canelo doesn't want to risk the loss at 168 because a loss to Bivol at that limit is more damaging to his rep than a loss at 175 which can always be brushed off as not being his real weight class. Bivol obviously would prefer 168 as he risks no belt and stand to gain 4 belts and super kudos.

            I think maybe the fight won't happen.

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #56
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              Now why on God's green earth should Bivol turn down such an easy fight against Canelo? He's already beaten his ass once. He's gonna beat his ass some more. However, it's Alvarez' choice.

              Alvarez doesn't have to go this route. I don't like seeing him over matched no more than I like seeing him over matching his limited and overachieving opponents he likes to fight.

              As a boxing fan and not some racial tribalist; I prefer 50/50 competitive and even match ups. Therefore, the man he should fight is David Benavidez. That's more of a 50/50 fight than this one. He would at least have more than half a chance of defeating him.

              He has absolutely no chance of winning this one. I don't understand Canelo. What does he has to prove? He knows he can't win this fight. I believe he is only coming to this fight to lay down and lose.​
              Maybe he intends to use the same ring size he had for the Ryder fight.

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              • Rebelrbg
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                #57
                Originally posted by Cool story

                Jermall charlo has went 12 rounds with dudes that have been knocked out before with out even really hurting them
                didn’t David go 12 with plant couldn’t drop one time
                canelo finished a undefeated plant


                canelo dropped Ryder 2 times and hurt him multiple times

                worry about Spence who is running from bud
                You're a special kind of dumb. What does any of what you stated have to do with the discussion. Just put on your helmet and wait for the short bus with finger paint and drool bibs.

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                • RetroSpeed05
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                  #58
                  Bivol at 168 is the best option for his legacy for many reasons.

                  1. The Beterbiev fight looks impossible to make with the promotions plus the WBC discriminating against Russian citizens.

                  2. If option 1 cant happen being undisputed at 168 is the way to go for legacy. He also wants a reason/hunger to train again for Canelo after already beating him to keep his 175lb title.

                  3. Not being talked about is its a high risk fight to fight Canelo be it 175 or 168 because of the judges. Canelo only has to be 2% better and he wins by robbery. Look at the scored cards of the first Bivol fight, the Mayweather fight, the GGG fights. He has the Judges in his pocket. Thats also the reason Canelo wants this fight bad he knows he only has to be a little better to get a decision win.

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                  • nino brown21
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                    #59
                    Based on what I saw . I think canelo needs to fight benavidez n if he don't take to much damage and wins then try his shot at 175 bivol . He has a better chance of beating benavidez at this point of his career.

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                    • MCFM
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                      #60
                      Let me get this straight:

                      Canelito doesnt wanna risk his 168 belts (the only things making him relevant);

                      while also attempting to rob again bivol's 175 belt (which wouldnt be that hard, canelito just needs to look more decent than a toddler that he is during the last fight);

                      and have a shot at undisputed there with beterbiev..

                      did i get the plan right? Lmao
                      Last edited by MCFM; 05-08-2023, 05:24 PM.

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