Dana White FORCES the best to fight the best every single week while in boxing it takes YEARS for the best to fight. No wonder people see boxing as a dying sport.

[TMLT87]

Thank you.

Is Jone Jones vs Ciryl Gane the best vs the best?

Its the best p4p MMA fighter ever and real LHW champ coming back, moving to HW and immediately fighting the no2 ranked guy, because the no1 ranked guy has literally left the company and sport. Not to mention that the no1 guy in many peoples eyes should have lost the decision to the guy Jones fought anyway. And thats another thing, look at how quickly Gane/Ngannou was made when it was the biggest fight in the division and Gane was the hungry unstoppable challenger, just like how Stipe/Ngannou was made at the right time back when Ngannou was in the challenger role.

Are you really trying to compare this to years of boxing fans waiting in vain for stuff like spence/Crawford, AJ/Wilder, AJ/Fury, Fury/Usyk etc? theres a massive difference in how consistently the UFC gets its big fights made at the right time (or at all) compared to boxing and we both know it.

[elfag]

Lol I don't any person who actually watches the UFC. Most people don't know any of the names of the top UFC besides McGregor who I don't think even fight anymore. Numerous boxers are known by people who aren't even boxing fans. Also most of the UFC "top" fighters don't fight each other. They usually avoid each other like the plague.

really ? every time I mention i like to watch boxing they ask me if Im watching the next UFC fight.

[War Room]

Its the best p4p MMA fighter ever and real LHW champ coming back, moving to HW and immediately fighting the no2 ranked guy, because the no1 ranked guy has literally left the company and sport. Not to mention that the no1 guy in many peoples eyes should have lost the decision to the guy Jones fought anyway. And thats another thing, look at how quickly Gane/Ngannou was made when it was the biggest fight in the division and Gane was the hungry unstoppable challenger, just like how Stipe/Ngannou was made at the right time back when Ngannou was in the challenger role.

Are you really trying to compare this to years of boxing fans waiting in vain for stuff like spence/Crawford, AJ/Wilder, AJ/Fury, Fury/Usyk etc? theres a massive difference in how consistently the UFC gets its big fights made at the right time (or at all) compared to boxing and we both know it.

Can you just answer the question please? Is Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane the best vs the best?

[TMLT87]

Can you just answer the question please? Is Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane the best vs the best?

I dont know, how can that really be said definitively when, for one, you're talking about a guy coming up from a lower weight class to fight at HW for the first time ever? the only frame of reference is he demolished in one round a guy that lost a close contentious decision to Ngannou a year ago.

You're clutching at straws.

[War Room]

I dont know, how can that really be said definitively when, for one, you're talking about a guy coming up from a lower weight class to fight at HW for the first time ever? the only frame of reference is he demolished in one round a guy that lost a close contentious decision to Ngannou a year ago.

You're clutching at straws.

I'm proving a point with valid sources. Ciryl Gane is not the best HW.

Is Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes the best vs the best?

is Henry Cejudo vs Aljamain Sterling the best vs the best?

[bchap05]

Lately it feels like Boxing needs more TV deals to get fighters more active. Around 2018 or so we had this surge of FOX, CBS, new ESPN Top Rank deal, etc contracts being signed. DAZN came about. Since then there has been nothing. The Fox deal ended. Showtime has been decently busy but it seemed like we had a surge in 2017-2021 where every time I turned on the TV boxing was on. Even some random Tuesday card on nbc sports. Now I feel like I haven't seen that for awhile. Dazn jacked their prices up, Show has been busy and Top rank just has been doing like they normally do.

Eventually you think you would hear of some new deal starting up but it's been slow and due to lack of TV everything has been going PPV for fights that should never be on ppv.

[BodyBagz]

Btw, on this topic, so dont you think fights being able to carry on on the ground is unique and interesting and adds a new dynamic?

I like the gut check aspect of counts in boxing as well, but MMAs approach also gives it more of a split second high stakes feeling. That you can get rocked hard and the only chance you have to recover and regain your composure is the time you can buy for yourself in that moment.

Nope
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[TMLT87]

I'm proving a point with valid sources. Ciryl Gane is not the best HW.

Is Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes the best vs the best?

is Henry Cejudo vs Aljamain Sterling the best vs the best?

So who is the best HW and what major best vs best HW match up have MMA fans been robbed of? i'm assuming you are gonna say Jones/Ngannou, a fight that wasnt even realistically touted until last year. The last big no1 vs no2 match up at HW was Gane/Ngannou, which happened right on cue, and it was literally last ****ing year.

The ultimate irony is the only reason Ngannou isnt there is because of boxing. Namely that theres now a precedent for none boxers to walk into major boxing paydays and PPV fights based on their name alone. So Ngannou has it in his head, not even all that unrealistically, that Fury, the supposed no1 HW boxer on the planet, is going to box an 0-0 in boxing MMA fighter in between taking on world beaters like Del Boy and Shyte. But you're complaining that Jones fought the guy that lost a contentious decision to Ngannou (outlanding him in 4 of 5 rounds btw) a year ago when Ngannou/Gane was the biggest fight in HW MMA, instead of Ngannou himself, like its remotely close to the **** show in HW boxing where the two biggest potential boxing matches since Floyd/Pac and biggest HW fights by far since Lennox/Tyson never happened and now the fans are getting screwed over on Fury/Usyk as well...geez.

Jones/Reyes was the champ vs the top challenger, so yes, at the time it was considered the best vs the best. And the ultimate fight in that division in the last 10 years was Jones/DC, which happened twice. In the era before that it was Shogun/Machida, also happened twice, in the era before that it was Chuck/Randy, they had a trilogy.

Aljo/Cejudo is practically a dream fight between the current champ and the former champ (and two division champ) who never lost his belts in the cage. Not sure why you're using this as an example. Also the Spence/Crawford of that division was Aljo/Yan, which happened twice. So what fight in that division would you consider best vs best right now instead then?


These examples you're using are just illustrating the point.

[Straight Up]

The youth don't give a shyt about it, but they sure do talk about the UFC.

and when they fight you know the other one has always an advantage over the other therefore knowing who will already win either being it a lackluster show or just obvious via decision or a KO.

[FinlandsFinest]

Boxers are overpaid divas and cowards who refuse to fight anyone they might lose to. That is why you need a centralized system like the UFC to make sure these losers are not paid in excess AND that they actually fight some decent competition.