Haney vs Lomachenko, what is your prediction?

[Regge]

I have always underestimated Loma in every fight. It always seemed 50/50 to me. I don't know why. Campbell was a huge guy and that was not an easy fight for Loma.

I thought Arum started throwing him under the bus when he gave him Lopez. (Arum congratulating Lopez in the post fight with a huge smile on his face looked like a revelation.)

Then Arum giving Commey who just had a KO win for Loma's comeback fight seemed a confirmation of my su****ion. Then the Nakatani fight. These are big guys and not exactly easy fights for stay busy fights. Why not Magdaleno, Diaz? You know, small guys.

I found later that Loma was actually excited and thankful he was being given such fights just to prove he'll do it better than Lopez.

50/50 for me.

Oh so now Campbell is a good win for Loma but when Ryan blows him away it don't mean nothing. Lol

[SweetPbfAli]

Haney will need to jab with authority while also not allowing Loma to get that left flank position. You can jab versus a southpaw as an Orthodox fighter but it just requires some adjustments but considering that Loma is always looking to get to his right, Haney stepping inside to get in better position to jab would work in Loma's favor.

Lead hand dominance will be vital.

[SunDiego-]

First three rounds Haney is going to be in control specially with his range but once Lomachenko goes into the fourth round he’ll start to put lots of pressure with his feet and Haney is going to start making mistakes and shell up. Eventually Haney is going to have to engage Lomachenko making him even more vulnerable to get counter and hit with big shots. I got Lomachenko winning 8-4

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

So Loma won't be able to close the distance but JoJo Diaz could? lol Okay ....

Diaz lost a wide decision. What’s your point?

[smith3536]

1-2 hug 1-2 hug stop stop stop 1-2 hug 1-2 hug
hug haney + referee kenny = and t winner is hug haney

[JakeTheBoxer]

I am picking Lomachenko.

[MONGOOSE66]

The reality is that this is a difficult fight for both. Make no mistake about it. This is going to be harder than Teofimo and a harder fight than Linares for Haney. Lopez was there to be hit. Haney is better at controlling distance. Plus, Haney has improved quite a bit from that JoJo fight. I saw all the improvements. He's got a nice feint game going on now. I believe that's credit to Mickey Bey. Bey has a lot of little tricks and pro moves, and after Haney paired up with Bey, I saw some changes. Haney's feint game combined with his jab is what really ruined Kambosos. (Ironically, they looked like mirror images of each other, except that Haney is better at controlling the distance and doesn't get stuck on the front foot like Kambosos.)

However, Loma will be able to take away Haney's jab. I have very little doubt about that. Haney's only fought one southpaw in his pro career, and JoJo out-jabbed Haney. Soviet boxing relies heavily on the jab, so Loma is very adept at taking jabs away. So with Haney's jab not being able to control the fight like he likes or is used to is going favor Loma in this. The difficulty for Loma is to consistently close the distance, collapse the pocket. That's tiring. So if Haney is able to keep taking that half-step and makes Loma work for it, then that'll be a problem for Loma. Plus Haney has good punch selection (which makes up for his bad punch technique).

If Loma can keep the same work rate he had with Ortiz, then he can pull out the later rounds because he definitely can gas out Haney. If you watch the back half of fights for him, he starts getting hit clean because he slows down.

So basically it'll be whoever can enforce his will and stick to the plan. Loma will have to start strong and keep that pace up. He's going to have to bully Haney. Haney is going to have to do everything to prevent Loma from closing the gap and tie him up if he does. Clearly the tie up is going to be critical for Haney's success, and because of that, the referee will be a factor in the fight. I'll have a better idea when I know who the ref will be, but right now, I think that Loma can win this by close decision or majority decision. I think Haney doesn't do as well with southpaws as he does with orthodox fighters, and I think that the weight cut is going to be rough and leave him gassed in the back half.

TL;DR: The fight will be competitive for the first half, and then Loma will create separation in the back half. Loma by close UD or MD. It might even be by split decision.

Damn! Its so nice to know that their are people on here who understand the dynamics of boxing. Well done.
I do agree with your assessments. I just think 2 things will create more difficulty for Loma. The first is his boxing mileage, the second is Haneys habitual HOLDING.

[Cypocryphy]

Diaz lost a wide decision. What’s your point?

There's a lot of people who disagree with those scorecards. Plus, those rounds were competitive. It's not as if Haney was blowing Diaz out of the water. Rounds went to Haney by a very fine margin. Also, Linares lost by a round to Haney on those scorecards. You think Loma is not going to be doing better than Linares? A Linares who'd been KO'd umpteenth times before fighting Haney? I get it that Haney has improved since then; however, styles make fights, and Loma has mastered the art of collapsing the pocket since moving to lightweight.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

There's a lot of people who disagree with those scorecards. Plus, those rounds were competitive. It's not as if Haney was blowing Diaz out of the water. Rounds went to Haney by a very fine margin. Also, Linares lost by a round to Haney on those scorecards. You think Loma is not going to be doing better than Linares? A Linares who'd been KO'd umpteenth times before fighting Haney? I get it that Haney has improved since then; however, styles make fights, and Loma has mastered the art of collapsing the pocket since moving to lightweight.

Is there?

I’m not a Haney fan whatsoever but he clearly won that fight.

Loma is too small and too old to close the gap. Haney by UD.

[Cypocryphy]

Is there?

I’m not a Haney fan whatsoever but he clearly won that fight.

Loma is too small and too old to close the gap. Haney by UD.

I get it. I think I know where we disagree. I don't think Haney is as good as you think he is. I believe that's where the difference is. That Kambosos who fought Haney two times was a Kambosos who did not have the skillset to fight long, rangy boxers. He fought Bey but Bey hadn't fought in two years and gassed out in the back half of the fight. That's how Kambosos won that fight. He was losing that fight for the most part. Loma doesn't have an issue so much with guys who have a seven inch reach advantage. It's not easy, but his skill set is so much better than Kambosos that you can't say their names in the same breath.

Bottom line is that I don't think Haney is that good. I've seen Haney hit clean and hard in each and every fight he's been in since fighting Linares. Every fight he gets hit clean, and not just once but multiple times. I just don't think he's as good as people are making him out to be. He's certainly not P4P IMO, compared to the other fighters on the lists.

Anyway, I respect your opinion. You're the only guy whose scorecards look practically identical to mine, so I know you have a good sense and mind to you. We'll find out soon here.