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  • kafkod
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    #61
    Originally posted by bullydean

    That's what happened which is why Usyk demanded a rematch after accepting 70/30 lol
    Usyk didn't demand a rematch. The rematch clause was already there because Fury and Warren put it there. Didn't you just hear Warren say so himself?

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    • bullydean
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      #62
      Originally posted by Toffee

      The belts do matter. It's not an Undisputed fight without them.

      If you want to be Undisputed, you have to pay fairly.

      Fury doesn't want to be Undisputed. His fans will just have to deal with that.
      The belts don't matter when most people will be tuning in for Fury. There's a reason why Fury vs AJ and Fury vs Wilder 1&2 were 50/50 splits. In those cases both fighters had appeal and a sizable fanbase resulting in a fair split regardless of who was holding a title.

      Usyk was the B side against Chisora even though Chisora is a old gatekeeper and Usyk was still the B side in AJ vs Usyk 2 after he dominated AJ and took the belts. The belts means nothing.

      Usyk fans will just have to accept that he ducked Fury by demanding a rematch clause.

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      • bullydean
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        #63
        Originally posted by kafkod

        Usyk didn't demand a rematch. The rematch clause was already there because Fury and Warren put it there. Didn't you just hear Warren say so himself?
        And what did Frank say before and after that timestamp?
        They got rid of the rematch clause once Usyk accepted the 70/30 split.

        Once the 70/30 split was accepted Usyk demanded a rematch clause. Usyk was trying to cash out.

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          #64
          Originally posted by _Rexy_

          That's the dumbest **** I've ever heard in my life


          When you're the B side against Gatti and Judah, you can't claim to be the A side against Hatton!
          Usyk was still the B side after dominating AJ and taking the belts. AJ was just a contender, but because he's the one bringing in the views he got the bigger share.

          The WBC World Champion who is English would also be the A side especially considering they would be fighting in the UK.

          You can't ignore Usyk's lack of commercial appeal simply because you hate Fury.

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            #65
            Originally posted by bullydean

            Usyk was still the B side after dominating AJ and taking the belts. AJ was just a contender, but because he's the one bringing in the views he got the bigger share.

            The WBC World Champion who is English would also be the A side especially considering they would be fighting in the UK.

            You can't ignore Usyk's lack of commercial appeal simply because you hate Fury.
            Except I don’t hate Fury you idiot. Look at my post history.

            unlike you, I’m able to be critical of someone for ****ing up a fight I wanted to see. I don’t have Anor track groupie mind like you. I don’t feel the need to do damage control for someone who doesn’t even know that I exist.

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              #66
              Originally posted by bullydean

              And what did Frank say before and after that timestamp?
              They got rid of the rematch clause once Usyk accepted the 70/30 split.

              Once the 70/30 split was accepted Usyk demanded a rematch clause. Usyk was trying to cash out.
              Is there something wrong with your ears, or is it what's between them that's causing you a problem?

              If they got rid of the rematch clause, then how could they have been arguing about Usyk wanting 70/30 for the winner in the rematch and Fury wanting 50/50 even if he lost the first fight?

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                #67
                Originally posted by bullydean

                Usyk was still the B side after dominating AJ and taking the belts. AJ was just a contender, but because he's the one bringing in the views he got the bigger share.

                The WBC World Champion who is English would also be the A side especially considering they would be fighting in the UK.

                You can't ignore Usyk's lack of commercial appeal simply because you hate Fury.
                The problem you have there is that before Fury got cold feet, Bob Arum and Frank Warren both said that 50'50 would be a fair split in a legacy fight like this.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Rodtang
                  Correct. He doesn't want fights he could lose. No Usyk, no Joshua. Plenty of Wilder and Chisora though. He can win those.
                  Except wilder is much more dangerous and difficult fight than AJ smh lmao

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_

                    Except I don’t hate Fury you idiot. Look at my post history.

                    unlike you, I’m able to be critical of someone for ****ing up a fight I wanted to see. I don’t have Anor track groupie mind like you. I don’t feel the need to do damage control for someone who doesn’t even know that I exist.
                    But you aren't being critical. I just logically explained how Usyk has been the b side even with the belts and against a old washed up gatekeeper on his way out.

                    Belts haven't been a deciding factor in negotiations for a long time. If someone is a bigger star they will get the bigger cut.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      Is there something wrong with your ears, or is it what's between them that's causing you a problem?

                      If they got rid of the rematch clause, then how could they have been arguing about Usyk wanting 70/30 for the winner in the rematch and Fury wanting 50/50 even if he lost the first fight?
                      Because Usyk wanted the rematch after the 70/30 split. Fury didn't want a rematch after the 70/30 split.

                      They've said this multiple times.

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