Comments Thread For: Usyk's Promoter: Even if Oleksandr Got Zero, It Would Still Not Be Sufficient For Fury

[kafkod]

Because it's not a guaranteed win lol. No matter the bravado any fighter has they're not ****** enough to accept a bs deal.
If Usyk was sure he we could win he wouldn't want a rematch.

Why didn't Usyk just accept the 50/50 rematch deal?

It was Fury who wanted a rematch clause, not Usyk. Frank Warren admitted that.

Usyk wanted the winner of both fights to get a bigger cut than the loser. Fury wouldn't accept that because he didn't believe in himself like Usyk did.

[kafkod]

You have terrible reading comprehension.

Now that's funny coming from you!

[kafkod]

Because it's not a guaranteed win lol. No matter the bravado any fighter has they're not ****** enough to accept a bs deal.
If Usyk was sure he we could win he wouldn't want a rematch.

Why didn't Usyk just accept the 50/50 rematch deal?

Why didn't Fury accept 70/30 to the winner? If he thought he was going to win, why would that be a problem?

[bullydean]

Lol ... what do you mean, regardless of the belts? He didn't have any belts then, you idiot!

Do you think the split would be the same if they fought again, with Usyk as the champ and AJ as the challenger?

Buddy he could have negotiated the rematch in his favor. How does that keep going over your head lol

[bullydean]

It was Fury who wanted a rematch clause, not Usyk. Frank Warren admitted that.

Usyk wanted the winner of both fights to get a bigger cut than the loser. Fury wouldn't accept that because he didn't believe in himself like Usyk did.

No. You already proved yourself wrong multiple times. In the video you brought up Frank states that they originally wanted the rematch but then scrapped it. In articles that have come out after the 70/30 split Frank as well as Klimas state Usyk wanted a rematch after the 70/30 split. We already talked about this and now it looks like you're in denial.

[bullydean]

Now that's funny coming from you!

It's not because I'm not the one that keeps backtracking and making assumptions instead of actually reading.

[bullydean]

Why didn't Fury accept 70/30 to the winner? If he thought he was going to win, why would that be a problem?

Buddy if Usyk was sure he would win why would he want a rematch???
I already explained why.

A) Fury is still a big draw and would continue to be a big or the biggest reason people show up to the rematch even after losing.

B) A rematch with Usyk results in Fury missing out on AJ or Joyce fights that would give him a bigger paycheck than Usyk. In case you haven't noticed money is more important than belts.

C) It's not guaranteed money. Like I mentioned before. All this bravado is bs. Why did Usyk want a rematch? Why deny a fair 50/50 split? If you actually read this article you would clearly see Usyk backed out for no reason.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Buddy if Usyk was sure he would win why would he want a rematch???
I already explained why.

A) Fury is still a big draw and would continue to be a big or the biggest reason people show up to the rematch even after losing.

B) A rematch with Usyk results in Fury missing out on AJ or Joyce fights that would give him a bigger paycheck than Usyk. In case you haven't noticed money is more important than belts.

C) It's not guaranteed money. Like I mentioned before. All this bravado is bs. Why did Usyk want a rematch? Why deny a fair 50/50 split? If you actually read this article you would clearly see Usyk backed out for no reason.

Usyk has said multiple times that the rematch clause came from Fury's team. They can lie about it all they want, but one side has a LONG past history of lying about things, and the other doesn't. Fury's team has been caught out lying about basically everything, and you've been totally silent about it. Who's the one who's in love with rematches? Fury. If you were actually interested in logic you'd think about how many rematches Fury has fought. Usyk never fought with rematch clauses until the Brits. They've been the source of those every time, because it's standard business there.

Fury's team asked for the rematch clause, and then when Usyk called the 70-30 bluff, he made a stink about his own rematch clause. Remember, this was after Fury had already sunk the Saudi fight by demanding so much money that even if Usyk fought for free (which he said he'd do) that the fight would still lose money for everyone else. So if it wasn't the rematch clause, it would have been something else. Would have been ring size, or gloves, or bottled water brand. Fury didn't want the fight. If you can't recognize ducking when you see it, there's no hope for you. Fury has used basically the whole book of ducking tactics, from sinking the fight by pricing himself out with the Saudis, to trying to price himself out with an unfair split, to making a stink about his own rematch clause.

You've been told repeatedly, with data, that Usyk sells very well in the UK. You persist in repeating false claims anyways about A side nonsense.

And if it's not a guaranteed thing, why is Usyk willing to risk 30 in both fights? Because he thinks he'll win. Why is Fury unwilling to risk evening out the split by giving the undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion the split to which he'd clearly be entitled to? Because he isn't confident of "beating the middleweight, that he could beat without a training camp."

If it was about money and Fury actually thought he'd win, he'd be all over 70/30 to the winner. One of these guys publicly said he'd fight for free if it would make the fight happen, and the other demanded 500 million. You're accusing the one who offered to fight for free of backing out for no reason. When has Usyk ducked anyone ever? How many times has he played A side games? Think about how many titles he's won in the enemy's home stadiums. Then think about how many unification fights Fury has fought (zero).

Your argument is fundamentally self-defeating. There's likely no pointing things out to you, because you're either delusional or being paid in some fashion by the Fury team.

[Kzbox]

Usyk is just as greedy as Fury even scamming people with ****** on social media when he’s already a multimillionaire.

People saying Usyk doesn’t care about money are delusional its the whole reason the fight didn’t happen along with Furys greed.

[bullydean]

Usyk has said multiple times that the rematch clause came from Fury's team. They can lie about it all they want, but one side has a LONG past history of lying about things, and the other doesn't. Fury's team has been caught out lying about basically everything, and you've been totally silent about it. Who's the one who's in love with rematches? Fury. If you were actually interested in logic you'd think about how many rematches Fury has fought. Usyk never fought with rematch clauses until the Brits. They've been the source of those every time, because it's standard business there.

Fury's team asked for the rematch clause, and then when Usyk called the 70-30 bluff, he made a stink about his own rematch clause. Remember, this was after Fury had already sunk the Saudi fight by demanding so much money that even if Usyk fought for free (which he said he'd do) that the fight would still lose money for everyone else. So if it wasn't the rematch clause, it would have been something else. Would have been ring size, or gloves, or bottled water brand. Fury didn't want the fight. If you can't recognize ducking when you see it, there's no hope for you. Fury has used basically the whole book of ducking tactics, from sinking the fight by pricing himself out with the Saudis, to trying to price himself out with an unfair split, to making a stink about his own rematch clause.

You've been told repeatedly, with data, that Usyk sells very well in the UK. You persist in repeating false claims anyways about A side nonsense.

And if it's not a guaranteed thing, why is Usyk willing to risk 30 in both fights? Because he thinks he'll win. Why is Fury unwilling to risk evening out the split by giving the undefeated undisputed heavyweight champion the split to which he'd clearly be entitled to? Because he isn't confident of "beating the middleweight, that he could beat without a training camp."

If it was about money and Fury actually thought he'd win, he'd be all over 70/30 to the winner. One of these guys publicly said he'd fight for free if it would make the fight happen, and the other demanded 500 million. You're accusing the one who offered to fight for free of backing out for no reason. When has Usyk ducked anyone ever? How many times has he played A side games? Think about how many titles he's won in the enemy's home stadiums. Then think about how many unification fights Fury has fought (zero).

Your argument is fundamentally self-defeating. There's likely no pointing things out to you, because you're either delusional or being paid in some fashion by the Fury team.

Nobody is reading that. The articles are there. This one you're currently on shows Usyk abandoned the fight for no reason.