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  • bullydean
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    #101
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    Riddle me this, Fury super-fan...

    If Usyk is only worth 30 as the undefeated unified champion of the world, and then Fury wins the first fight, why would Usyk then be worth 50 after he loses?

    Because Usyk wanted 70 to the winner in the second fight. If Fury wins the first fight, under what Usyk wanted, Fury would be entitled to 70 in both fights. Instead, Fury wants to have the second fight be 50-50, when the loser will be a defeated contender, and the winner is the UNDISPUTED heavyweight champion. Why, if he's worth so much, is he turning down an extra 20%? Fury is literally throwing a tantrum over being offered more money... Unless he thinks he's going to lose...

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    Because Fury is still a bigger name than Usyk. Even after losing Fury would be one of or the biggest reason the fight would sell. Same reason Usyk accepted a 50/50 rematch deal against AJ.

    How is Fury throwing a tantrum for wanting 50/50 in a rematch he doesn't want?
    You do realize the reason Fury didn't want the rematch win or lose is so he could move on and cash out against AJ and potentially Joyce. If Fury has to rematch Usyk he's not going to make as much money as he wants to. Fury is almost out of his prime or already on the decline.

    I'm not a superfan I just happen to actually read the articles.
    Last edited by bullydean; 04-04-2023, 06:22 PM.

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    • kafkod
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      #102
      Originally posted by bullydean

      My point is they didn't lie or change their plans like you said they did.
      When the deal was announced they said the split would be 50/50. How do you get from 50/50 to 70/30 without changing anything?
      Last edited by kafkod; 04-04-2023, 07:08 PM.

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      • crimsonfalcon07
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        #103
        Originally posted by bullydean

        Because Fury is still a bigger name than Usyk. Even after losing Fury would be one of or the biggest reason the fight would sell. Same reason Usyk accepted a 50/50 rematch deal against AJ.

        How is Fury throwing a tantrum for wanting 50/50 in a rematch he doesn't want?
        You do realize the reason Fury didn't want the rematch win or lose is so he could move on and cash out against AJ and potentially Joyce. If Fury has to rematch Usyk he's not going to make as much money as he wants to. Fury is almost out of his prime or already on the decline.

        I'm not a superfan I just happen to actually read the articles.
        You clearly don't read well...

        If Fury is a bigger name, why is he turning down a bigger split in the second fight if he wins, and insisting on a 50/50 split instead of getting 70 in both fights? If he wins under Usyk's proposal he'd make more money in the second fight than under his own proposal. If he's confident about beating the "middleweight" why's he turning down more money if he's such a big star?

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        • kafkod
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          #104
          Originally posted by bullydean

          You do accept that AJ was the bigger draw which is why he got 50% after losing badly and being a contender?
          I'm asking you again ... do you understand that the split for the rematch was agreed and written into the contract when AJ was the champion and Usyk was the challenger?

          Do you also understand that Usyk was not legally allowed to change that split after he won?

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            #105
            Originally posted by bullydean

            Because Fury is still a bigger name than Usyk. Even after losing Fury would be one of or the biggest reason the fight would sell. Same reason Usyk accepted a 50/50 rematch deal against AJ.

            How is Fury throwing a tantrum for wanting 50/50 in a rematch he doesn't want?
            You do realize the reason Fury didn't want the rematch win or lose is so he could move on and cash out against AJ and potentially Joyce. If Fury has to rematch Usyk he's not going to make as much money as he wants to. Fury is almost out of his prime or already on the decline.

            I'm not a superfan I just happen to actually read the articles.
            You obviously don't understand what you're reading.

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            • bullydean
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              #106
              Originally posted by kafkod

              When the deal was announced they said the split would be 50/50. How do you get from 50/50 to 70/30 without changing anything?
              You have terrible reading comprehension.

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                #107
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                You clearly don't read well...

                If Fury is a bigger name, why is he turning down a bigger split in the second fight if he wins, and insisting on a 50/50 split instead of getting 70 in both fights? If he wins under Usyk's proposal he'd make more money in the second fight than under his own proposal. If he's confident about beating the "middleweight" why's he turning down more money if he's such a big star?
                Because it's not a guaranteed win lol. No matter the bravado any fighter has they're not ****** enough to accept a bs deal.
                If Usyk was sure he we could win he wouldn't want a rematch.

                Why didn't Usyk just accept the 50/50 rematch deal?

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                • bullydean
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  I'm asking you again ... do you understand that the split for the rematch was agreed and written into the contract when AJ was the champion and Usyk was the challenger?

                  Do you also understand that Usyk was not legally allowed to change that split after he won?
                  You do accept that AJ was the bigger draw which is why he got 50% after losing badly and being a contender?

                  Again the mandatory isn't forced to accept the 75/25 deal. Usyk could have negotiated the rematch split in his favor before the first fight but he didn't because AJ was the A side regardless of the belts.

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                  • bullydean
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by kafkod

                    You obviously don't understand what you're reading.
                    I do which is why I actually bring up the stated information while you resort to jabs lol

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                    • kafkod
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by bullydean

                      You do accept that AJ was the bigger draw which is why he got 50% after losing badly and being a contender?

                      Again the mandatory isn't forced to accept the 75/25 deal. Usyk could have negotiated the rematch split in his favor before the first fight but he didn't because AJ was the A side regardless of the belts.
                      Lol ... what do you mean, regardless of the belts? He didn't have any belts then, you idiot!

                      Do you think the split would be the same if they fought again, with Usyk as the champ and AJ as the challenger?
                      Last edited by kafkod; 04-04-2023, 08:21 PM.

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