Calzaghe vs Ward @ 168

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  • billeau2
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    #21
    Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry
    we would have known the answer but calzaghe b*tched out and retired just when his division got hot and loaded with the supersix tourney boxers.

    his entire career 168 was barren, with 175 and 160 occupied by ATGs in hopkins and rjj.

    calzaghe doesnt budge until both fighters were in their 40s, gets dropped by both 40 year olds, his division finally gets hot,

    he retires.

    i cant stand scumbags like this.

    same crap that floyd jr. pulled.
    But but... he beat Hopkins! and Roy tooo!

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #22
      I love Andre Ward. Been watching him since he was a amatuer. I bet fir him to win the SUPER SIX. That said, I dont think anyone could whip Calzaghe in his prime. Ask RJJ and BHOP.

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      • Bravado
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        #23
        Originally posted by HeadShots



        he slapped the chit out of RJJ and Hopkins


        both of whom > Ward
        At the time he faced them? No and no

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        • Bravado
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          #24
          Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry
          we would have known the answer but calzaghe b*tched out and retired just when his division got hot and loaded with the supersix tourney boxers.

          his entire career 168 was barren, with 175 and 160 occupied by ATGs in hopkins and rjj.

          calzaghe doesnt budge until both fighters were in their 40s, gets dropped by both 40 year olds, his division finally gets hot,

          he retires.

          i cant stand scumbags like this.

          same crap that floyd jr. pulled.

          Floyd dominated five divisions. No, that’s not even close to being the same.

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          • MulaKO
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            #25
            Joe Calzaghe all day long
            Hard fought , yes but Joe would come up with victory
            He’d make it a street fight , he wouldn’t let Ward tangle him up

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            • M312
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              #26
              Calzaghes footwork, handspeed, combinations and deceptive power would be enough against almost anyone.

              Ward is dirty, but Calzaghe had no problem getting gritty when needed too.

              Joe would find a way, whether that's outboxing or outfighting. He was a compete package who would adjust mid fight if needed.

              Ward relied too much on 'spoiling' and was a bit too one dimensional once Calzaghe worked him out.

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              • Godsfly
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                #27
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
                I love Andre Ward. Been watching him since he was a amatuer. I bet fir him to win the SUPER SIX. That said, I dont think anyone could whip Calzaghe in his prime. Ask RJJ and BHOP.
                Many had old man hopkins beating Joe. All who claim "Joe whooped or easily beat hopkins" stop looking at flat resumes on boxrec and take ure lazy ah and actually watch the fight. That fight could have easily gone the other way in Hopkins favor......easily. Joe struggled horriblely in that fight. After that fight (which could have gone ether way) Joe's fans started living through any hopkins future success, because Joe didn't want to fight Pavlik, pascal, guys like kovalev. Any and every win for hopkins to them was automatically marked down as a joe win lol also when Joe fought roy he was shot to bits and in his next bouts knocked out by bum green of Australia but Joe fans claim that this roy was a prime roy lol Joe's resume is crap in comparison to ward and truthfully ward would have fought Joe exactly how hopkins fought him but with a much much higher pace and with 0 stamina issues. Joe would lose 8/4

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry
                  we would have known the answer but calzaghe b*tched out and retired just when his division got hot and loaded with the supersix tourney boxers.

                  his entire career 168 was barren, with 175 and 160 occupied by ATGs in hopkins and rjj.

                  calzaghe doesnt budge until both fighters were in their 40s, gets dropped by both 40 year olds, his division finally gets hot,

                  he retires.

                  i cant stand scumbags like this.

                  same crap that floyd jr. pulled.
                  - - U stewing in U BarneyBigBoys again ain't a good look.

                  Poppy paid Dibella a $2mil broken contract civil settlement after Lou arranged fights with Joe and Roy, so geriatric Poppy and U is too full of exlax.

                  Joe locked into an onerous contract with Warren who controlled British boxing then and kept it local and WBO.

                  When the contract ran out, Joe on his last legs with broken hands travel to America to turn Poppy into a kicked cur crawling around on the canvas in the biggest quit job ever seen in those parts that not even I'm Fairly Infirm Cortez could stomach. Embarrassing for Americans to watch.

                  Returns to America to carve up Roy like a Christmas Turkey. Roy then Ring #5 and Poppy...snicker...Ring Champ...

                  U BarneyBigBoys have got the EPA alarms going off as they gonna grab U up as hazardous waste...

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                  • dan_cov
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                    #29
                    The thing with volume punchers is their volume always significantly decreases vs a high I.Q craftsman.
                    Where was Joes volume vs a 43yr old B-Hop? A fight I quite frankly thought he lost 115-112. The odd times he let his hands go or attempted to he was swatting flies and eating counter right hand after counter right hand and got schooled on the inside quite frankly.

                    I think Ward wins this comfortable.

                    Joe for me was a guy who benefitted tremendously from clever matchmaking. Ward on the other hand never had that luxury with the Super Six and even after that and fought real killers in their prime.
                    Its easy to remember Ward for the latter part of his career at LHW but SMW Ward was something else.

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                    • gauze
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                      #30
                      they're both overrated. considering their common opponents, i felt like calzaghe handled bika and kessler with much more integrity and fought the fresher version of both guys. it really comes down to where the fight takes place geographically. on neutral ground i would favor calzaghe in a close one

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