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  • #71
    Originally posted by alexjust View Post

    I see, so you are a racist to top it all off. Quite predictable for a MAGA. MAGA has gone international, you don't need to be an American anymore to be a moron supporting right wing degenerates. You may **** off now.

    Pray tell which "race" am i being racist to?

    And to have the audacity and sheer ******ity claim i'm right wing and yet in the very same breathe be here arguing i'm blaming the "elite" for a war, make your hypocritical, nonsensical mind up, would you.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Boro View Post

      I put it in simple words with multiple posts, not fault you're incapable of comprehending what's being said but let's simplify for you eh.

      100's of billions worth of oil that Condelezza and ***** openly mention attacking and wanting Europe rely on Americas "plentiful bounty of oil"

      Blackrock, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs all actively participating in and helping rebuild and digitalize the entirety of the Ukrainian system whilst stripping away works rights and privatizing almost everything and using it as test bed for CBDCs before larger economies like those of the US and multiple EU countries adopt it assuming success...

      Then you've got the Military–industrial complex not only standing to make huge profits but also testing weapon systems without risking their own people...

      Why even ask who started the war, it's a rhetorical question, ***** had been saying for years before the annex of Crimea to stop with NATOs and EU's encroachment but they continued and successfully carried out their coup d'etat and that ultimately resulted in the aforementioned annexing of Crimea and eventually this war.

      Either you're ignorant or willfully ignorant, either way it's pathetic to try and discuss these subjects with another person when you don't even have a grasp on the subject matter...

      Lastly who mentioned someone "mysterious evil elite" you imbecile, all the groups I've mentioned have made public statements about their intentions to imply there is anything "mysterious and evil" is beyond laughable.

      I never implied for profit wars were evil, I just pointed that's what this situation is... You've assumed I think they're evil, quite frankly I couldn't careless how people make money what I do care about in this situation is people know ALL THE INFORMATION rather than just the MSM version of events...
      The point is that you're drawing wrong conclusions based on your assumption of the globalist scheme. Circumstantial evidence is very weak and this is all you have. With this same logic you can "prove" Pearl Harbour to be an inside job too. This is extremely lazy thinking and this all you're doing AND then you're acting as if everyone who doesn't agree with you is ******. But this is convincing if and only if you have assumptions that you cannot prove otherwise. This is what makes you a prime example of a tinfoil.

      You said "They outline their intentions in places like the IMF, WEF, EU Parliament so on so forth". So who are "they". Or what are "they" outlining according to you?

      You said that ***** is a pawn and irrelevant. Based on what? Who is in power in Russia then? Or are you going to backpedal again?

      The military industrial complex would make even more money if USA went to war with China back in 2001. This kind of lazy "follow the money" thinking can be used to suggest anything and everything as whatever happens someone is making money off it. It's the current system in our world. Same goes for the banks. Banks are money making machines ofc they are doing it also in Ukraine. What's this supposed to prove?

      Ukraine has been reaching to the West for a long time bcs Russia has been trying to control them since the Soviet Union fell. In case you have missed it Russia is a complete disaster of a country that keeps taking more and more rights from their citizens. Ukrainian naturally did not want to depend on Russia for obvious reasons. Anyone with a brain would look to the east where you have a tyranny with a low quality of life and to the west where you have welfare states, free trade, human rights etc. It's natural Ukrainians want the western way more than the eastern way. It's a no brainer.

      USA has known Russia is 1. unreliable and 2. vulnerable but European politicians have not wanted to stir the pot. This has lead to Russia thinking Europeans are weak. And for this reasons Americans have tried to get Europeans to cut ties and dependencies with Russia - which has been SHOWN TO BE SMART as Russia is an unreliable kleptocracy lead by a maniac with an equally manic group of insiders around him. They have run their own country to a disaster and now are trying to keep it together with aggressive foreign policies and this has now lead to instability in Europe not seen since 1930's. If Europeans were a bit more su****ious of the lunatic Russian leadership and did not depend on Russian energy the situation would not have been as serious as it is.

      And fyi it isn't a coup when a corrupt president betrays his people and they take over. It was a revolution which happens when politicians piss off the people. Google "history" for more examples.

      You are repeating the twisted Russian troll version of events i.e. buying *****'s lies. This whole narrative of the globalists is a conspiracy that the Russians feed all the time and anyone buying into it is a fool.

      You also called it "asinine" when I said that you can't separate politics and sports and yet you failed to explain who you can separate the two. Still curious how you think this can be done. Or if you agree they can't be separated then what was "asinine" about my comment?


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      • #73
        Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

        The point is that you're drawing wrong conclusions based on your assumption of the globalist scheme. Circumstantial evidence is very weak and this is all you have. With this same logic you can "prove" Pearl Harbour to be an inside job too. This is extremely lazy thinking and this all you're doing AND then you're acting as if everyone who doesn't agree with you is ******. But this is convincing if and only if you have assumptions that you cannot prove otherwise. This is what makes you a prime example of a tinfoil.

        You said "They outline their intentions in places like the IMF, WEF, EU Parliament so on so forth". So who are "they". Or what are "they" outlining according to you?

        You said that ***** is a pawn and irrelevant. Based on what? Who is in power in Russia then? Or are you going to backpedal again?

        The military industrial complex would make even more money if USA went to war with China back in 2001. This kind of lazy "follow the money" thinking can be used to suggest anything and everything as whatever happens someone is making money off it. It's the current system in our world. Same goes for the banks. Banks are money making machines ofc they are doing it also in Ukraine. What's this supposed to prove?

        Ukraine has been reaching to the West for a long time bcs Russia has been trying to control them since the Soviet Union fell. In case you have missed it Russia is a complete disaster of a country that keeps taking more and more rights from their citizens. Ukrainian naturally did not want to depend on Russia for obvious reasons. Anyone with a brain would look to the east where you have a tyranny with a low quality of life and to the west where you have welfare states, free trade, human rights etc. It's natural Ukrainians want the western way more than the eastern way. It's a no brainer.

        USA has known Russia is 1. unreliable and 2. vulnerable but European politicians have not wanted to stir the pot. This has lead to Russia thinking Europeans are weak. And for this reasons Americans have tried to get Europeans to cut ties and dependencies with Russia - which has been SHOWN TO BE SMART as Russia is an unreliable kleptocracy lead by a maniac with an equally manic group of insiders around him. They have run their own country to a disaster and now are trying to keep it together with aggressive foreign policies and this has now lead to instability in Europe not seen since 1930's. If Europeans were a bit more su****ious of the lunatic Russian leadership and did not depend on Russian energy the situation would not have been as serious as it is.

        And fyi it isn't a coup when a corrupt president betrays his people and they take over. It was a revolution which happens when politicians piss off the people. Google "history" for more examples.

        You are repeating the twisted Russian troll version of events i.e. buying *****'s lies. This whole narrative of the globalists is a conspiracy that the Russians feed all the time and anyone buying into it is a fool.

        You also called it "asinine" when I said that you can't separate politics and sports and yet you failed to explain who you can separate the two. Still curious how you think this can be done. Or if you agree they can't be separated then what was "asinine" about my comment?

        1 - IMF,WEF etc etc on their own websites they outline plans for Ukraine and it's intended on the larger global economy, this is basic stuff Christ...

        2 - I haven't backpedaled on anything.

        3 - MIC​ - let's not pretend the very same countries involved in selling and TESTING arms to/ in the Ukraine, aren't the very same who stand to make tremendous profit from their eventual victory.

        4 - Who cares if Ukraine is trying to "reach the west", ***** was actively telling all parties involved not to enrage in the discourse regarding their joining of NATO/EU as he feels like he's being encircled, it doesn't take a genius to work this stuff out and I find ironic that your mention "rights" and forget how I've mentioned Ukraine stripping away Workers,Human rights, E-governance etc etc

        5 - Wow Russia is vulnerable color me surprised, America has tried to get Europe to cut ties with because they want the 100's of billions of dollars in their pocket rather than their perceived biggest rival and if the US was so concerned about kleptocracy they wouldn't be on of the biggest contributors to the growth of China...

        6 - If you don't the west being actively involved in the overthrowing of a government equates to a coup I don't know what to tell you honestly....

        7 - I didn't say anything was "asinine" I said it was reductive don't know how you're conflating the two...

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Boro View Post

          1 - IMF,WEF etc etc on their own websites they outline plans for Ukraine and it's intended on the larger global economy, this is basic stuff Christ...

          2 - I haven't backpedaled on anything.

          3 - MIC​ - let's not pretend the very same countries involved in selling and TESTING arms to/ in the Ukraine, aren't the very same who stand to make tremendous profit from their eventual victory.

          4 - Who cares if Ukraine is trying to "reach the west", ***** was actively telling all parties involved not to enrage in the discourse regarding their joining of NATO/EU as he feels like he's being encircled, it doesn't take a genius to work this stuff out and I find ironic that your mention "rights" and forget how I've mentioned Ukraine stripping away Workers,Human rights, E-governance etc etc

          5 - Wow Russia is vulnerable color me surprised, America has tried to get Europe to cut ties with because they want the 100's of billions of dollars in their pocket rather than their perceived biggest rival and if the US was so concerned about kleptocracy they wouldn't be on of the biggest contributors to the growth of China...

          6 - If you don't the west being actively involved in the overthrowing of a government equates to a coup I don't know what to tell you honestly....

          7 - I didn't say anything was "asinine" I said it was reductive don't know how you're conflating the two...


          1. I was asking you. What are they being open about according to you. I'm sure you won't find your version from any quotes from them so you need to make interpretations. So what are they saying according to you? You're not dodging again, are you?

          2. "And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics" VS "I didn't say anything was "asinine" I said it was reductive don't know how you're conflating the two..." This is backpedaling. Stop lying and answer the questions. Based on what is ***** just a pawn? And who is in power?

          3. You mean the countries who are sending free equipment to Ukraine? Show me the profits for the countries who are sending free equipment to Ukraine.

          4. Who cares? Well it is pretty important here. Ukrainians were scared of Russia and justifiably so as we see. So them getting closer to the West is an essential part of the conflict. ***** has no right to tell Ukraine who they can be allies with. This talk drove Ukrainians towards the West even more, obviously. ***** is surrounded by yes-men and in his delusion he could not stand being rejected like the insecure child he is. This is why it is important. You're trying to paint it as if it is Ukraine's and the EU's fault that Russia attacked bcs Russia told they would. Listen to yourself, you may as well copy your opinions from Russian propaganda outlets. Russia has threatened Estonia, Finland, Lithuania and Poland countless times. Russia as a country is a bully. This doesn't mean that they should be allowed to dictate what other European countries do. This is what Hitler was allowed to do and it lead to the bloodiest war of all times.

          5. Of course America wants the business. So does Russia. What about it? Russia attacked Ukraine, not America. USA also dislikes China as do all countries in the free world. It's another tyranny. This does nothing for your case. What is your point?

          6. If you don't the west?? What? The people were rioting. Ukrainians, not Americans. This was the revolution. Their own corrupt president was saying "f the people, ***** pays me well" so this is not a coup. "coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group.​" So, you're wrong again, parroting the Russian narrative.

          7. You did as I already proved with quotes. Stop lying.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by letsgochump View Post



            1. I was asking you. What are they being open about according to you. I'm sure you won't find your version from any quotes from them so you need to make interpretations. So what are they saying according to you? You're not dodging again, are you?

            2. "And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics" VS "I didn't say anything was "asinine" I said it was reductive don't know how you're conflating the two..." This is backpedaling. Stop lying and answer the questions. Based on what is ***** just a pawn? And who is in power?

            3. You mean the countries who are sending free equipment to Ukraine? Show me the profits for the countries who are sending free equipment to Ukraine.

            4. Who cares? Well it is pretty important here. Ukrainians were scared of Russia and justifiably so as we see. So them getting closer to the West is an essential part of the conflict. ***** has no right to tell Ukraine who they can be allies with. This talk drove Ukrainians towards the West even more, obviously. ***** is surrounded by yes-men and in his delusion he could not stand being rejected like the insecure child he is. This is why it is important. You're trying to paint it as if it is Ukraine's and the EU's fault that Russia attacked bcs Russia told they would. Listen to yourself, you may as well copy your opinions from Russian propaganda outlets. Russia has threatened Estonia, Finland, Lithuania and Poland countless times. Russia as a country is a bully. This doesn't mean that they should be allowed to dictate what other European countries do. This is what Hitler was allowed to do and it lead to the bloodiest war of all times.

            5. Of course America wants the business. So does Russia. What about it? Russia attacked Ukraine, not America. USA also dislikes China as do all countries in the free world. It's another tyranny. This does nothing for your case. What is your point?

            6. If you don't the west?? What? The people were rioting. Ukrainians, not Americans. This was the revolution. Their own corrupt president was saying "f the people, ***** pays me well" so this is not a coup. "coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group.​" So, you're wrong again, parroting the Russian narrative.

            7. You did as I already proved with quotes. Stop lying.
            1. Why would I cover anything relating to "my opinion" when Larry Fink and schaub and many others are openly saying stuff like "We're establishing a roadmap for the investment framework’s implementation, including identifying design choices for the envisioned setup, structure, mandate and governance of the Ukraine." - if you think private corporations should be actively controlling the governance of the Ukraine or any country for that matter then okay... But I don't and never will but then again you probably think Bill Gates is a good guy.

            2. Quoting me out of context is redundant I was talking about sports personalities sharing their opinions, knowing full well people use sports as a means of escapism you're being intentionally disingenuous.

            3. You're beyond naive if you think they're doing it for free, I've explained this numerous time it's boring at this point.

            4. So in your head Russia isn't allowed to feel threatened by countries as good as pulling a Pincer movement on them and trying to ally with their biggest known "enemies" aka America by proxy... But when America and it's allies go swinging their ****s round and "bullying" as well as setuping military bases all over the shop it's all good?

            And who ultimately bled and died the most for the victory over the Germans...?

            5. Russia attacked Ukraine after years of western provocation and involvement in a country that used to be the capitol of Russia... behave yourself.

            6. You obviously know what i meant smart ass i forgot the word think who fúcking cares...

            You're beyond naive on this point as well McCain was actively involved in going to Anti-Yanukovych propaganda and demonstrations in Ukraine, pictured with far-right extreme opposition - свобода

            And then you have Victoria Nuland and her calls about Yatsenyuk who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power as well as her involvement in propaganda and demonstrations in Ukraine...

            ***** and his Ilk practically micromanaged Ukrainian political scene at the time...

            7. See 2

            This is the last response i'm beyond bored of this and you clearly can't see beyond your own nose.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Boro View Post

              1. Why would I cover anything relating to "my opinion" when Larry Fink and schaub and many others are openly saying stuff like "We're establishing a roadmap for the investment framework’s implementation, including identifying design choices for the envisioned setup, structure, mandate and governance of the Ukraine." - if you think private corporations should be actively controlling the governance of the Ukraine or any country for that matter then okay... But I don't and never will but then again you probably think Bill Gates is a good guy.

              2. Quoting me out of context is redundant I was talking about sports personalities sharing their opinions, knowing full well people use sports as a means of escapism you're being intentionally disingenuous.

              3. You're beyond naive if you think they're doing it for free, I've explained this numerous time it's boring at this point.

              4. So in your head Russia isn't allowed to feel threatened by countries as good as pulling a Pincer movement on them and trying to ally with their biggest known "enemies" aka America by proxy... But when America and it's allies go swinging their ****s round and "bullying" as well as setuping military bases all over the shop it's all good?

              And who ultimately bled and died the most for the victory over the Germans...?

              5. Russia attacked Ukraine after years of western provocation and involvement in a country that used to be the capitol of Russia... behave yourself.

              6. You obviously know what i meant smart ass i forgot the word think who fúcking cares...

              You're beyond naive on this point as well McCain was actively involved in going to Anti-Yanukovych propaganda and demonstrations in Ukraine, pictured with far-right extreme opposition - свобода

              And then you have Victoria Nuland and her calls about Yatsenyuk who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power as well as her involvement in propaganda and demonstrations in Ukraine...

              ***** and his Ilk practically micromanaged Ukrainian political scene at the time...

              7. See 2

              This is the last response i'm beyond bored of this and you clearly can't see beyond your own nose.
              1. Source for this? And no I don't and that's why I never said that. I believe in democracy and that's why Russia is a dungole country. Yet here you are, questioning the ethics of the private sector supporting a country in war while defending a dictatorship.

              2. I was not quoting you out of context. Read carefully: You're trying to weasel out something you said bcs it was obviously idiotic. I said: "these people attack him while defending a mass murdering tyrant bcs "sports should not be mixed with politics" which is laughable. What do these people think sports are if not politics lol. You can't separate the two no matter what." To which you replied: "And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics". Another exceptionally pathetic attempt of lying and twisting things and you call me disingenuous. What an absolute joke. So what is asinine about saying that you cannot separate sports and politics? Or will you keep dodging and weaseling?

              3. Ok show me evidence for example Finland profiting from the gear and training they are sending to Ukraine. Let's for once see some proof for your bold claims. Did you ever hear that "what is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence"?

              4. Russia is allowed all emotions. But they cannot attack another country just because the country forms alliances with countries Russia doesn't like. Lmao what a concept!

              5. Well Russia has been provocative toward all it's neighbour countries so is that a reason to attack Russia now? No. I was probably 3 years old when I was taught that you don't hit someone just bcs you don't like them. This still does nothing for your argument.

              6. Good you agree and have no argument here.

              7. You look at 2 and stop with the weak lies.

              McCain was involved in anti-Yanukovych movements and that's good. He was a corrupt puppet for the Russians. Ukraine stands on the edge of falling to complete tyranny with no human rights etc. or to the path to western democracy. You for some reason prefer Ukrainians get butchered for their opinions like the Belarusian and Russian people. The people hated Yanukovych as he was a POS. You're just a pathetic Russian troll with no argument, no evidence, no logic and no integrity. I called it from the beginning and was proven right. Now go be wrong somewhere else bye bye.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

                1. Source for this? And no I don't and that's why I never said that. I believe in democracy and that's why Russia is a dungole country. Yet here you are, questioning the ethics of the private sector supporting a country in war while defending a dictatorship.

                2. I was not quoting you out of context. Read carefully: You're trying to weasel out something you said bcs it was obviously idiotic. I said: "these people attack him while defending a mass murdering tyrant bcs "sports should not be mixed with politics" which is laughable. What do these people think sports are if not politics lol. You can't separate the two no matter what." To which you replied: "And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics". Another exceptionally pathetic attempt of lying and twisting things and you call me disingenuous. What an absolute joke. So what is asinine about saying that you cannot separate sports and politics? Or will you keep dodging and weaseling?

                3. Ok show me evidence for example Finland profiting from the gear and training they are sending to Ukraine. Let's for once see some proof for your bold claims. Did you ever hear that "what is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence"?

                4. Russia is allowed all emotions. But they cannot attack another country just because the country forms alliances with countries Russia doesn't like. Lmao what a concept!

                5. Well Russia has been provocative toward all it's neighbour countries so is that a reason to attack Russia now? No. I was probably 3 years old when I was taught that you don't hit someone just bcs you don't like them. This still does nothing for your argument.

                6. Good you agree and have no argument here.

                7. You look at 2 and stop with the weak lies.

                McCain was involved in anti-Yanukovych movements and that's good. He was a corrupt puppet for the Russians. Ukraine stands on the edge of falling to complete tyranny with no human rights etc. or to the path to western democracy. You for some reason prefer Ukrainians get butchered for their opinions like the Belarusian and Russian people. The people hated Yanukovych as he was a POS. You're just a pathetic Russian troll with no argument, no evidence, no logic and no integrity. I called it from the beginning and was proven right. Now go be wrong somewhere else bye bye.
                1. - Blackrock.com
                2. - Yes you're and you're doing it again here, you've literally stripped all context to fit your narrative you're rétard...
                3. - Like I said you're naive, did everyone pay back their respective debts immediately when it came to the Marshall plan!? yeah I thought not, everything isn't required to be immediate you dim witted fúck.
                4. - But America is allowed to wipe out the likes of Muammar Gaddafi because he was looking to move from his economy being back by the Petro dollar to Gold and numerous other atrocities it sees fit when it feels threatened in any kind of way...
                5. - No one cares what you were taught in school, this isn't some schoolyard BS, it's clearly beyond your comprehension...
                6. - Again stripped down context claimed I agree with you and then addressed the point later and conveniently forgetting Nuland is still actively involved in American politics and also claimed McCain is a Russian "puppet" whilst conveniently forgetting it was Ukrainian ****'s he was supporting...
                7. Just LOL.

                And I ain't no Russian troll, I couldn't careless about Russia like I said previously all of the Russian and Ukrainian people could be wiped of the face of planet tomorrow and I wouldn't so much as shed a single tear.
                Last edited by Boro; 02-20-2023, 11:22 AM.
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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Boro View Post

                  1. - Blackrock.com
                  2. - Yes you're and you're doing it again here, you've literally stripped all context to fit your narrative you're rétard...
                  3. - Like I said you're naive, did everyone pay back their respective debts immediately when it came to the Marshall plan!? yeah I thought not, everything isn't required to be immediate you dim witted fúck.
                  4. - But America is allowed to wipe out the likes of Muammar Gaddafi because he was looking to move from his economy being back by the Petro dollar to Gold and numerous other atrocities it sees fit when it feels threatened in any kind of way...
                  5. - No one cares what you were taught in school, this isn't some schoolyard BS, it's clearly beyond your comprehension...
                  6. - Again stripped down context claimed I agree with you and then addressed the point later and conveniently forgetting Nuland is still actively involved in American politics and also claimed McCain is a Russian "puppet" whilst conveniently forgetting it was Ukrainian ****'s he was supporting...
                  7. Just LOL.

                  And I ain't no Russian troll, I couldn't careless about Russia like I said previously all of the Russian and Ukrainian people could be wiped of the face of planet tomorrow and I wouldn't so much as shed a single tear.
                  1. I put that quote in and it doesn’t come up. So link pls.

                  2. There is no other context. I said that and you replied to my comment by calling it asinine. You’re SUCH a weasel. Just admit you were wrong fcs.


                  3. Ok so now you’re a psychic. Now that’s a very solid argument for a tinfoil trollman! Lmao can’t make this up…


                  4. It wasn’t only America. And yeah it was wrong of them.

                  5. Same principle. No one attacked Russia. Russia attacked Ukraine. There is no justification.

                  6. Good you agree. You still might have some hope. You just gotta study history a little bit.

                  You might not intentionally be a Russian troll but you’re parroting the same opinions as Russian trolls. So you’ve bought their lies while believing you’re being some exceptionally smart independent thinker. They have done a good job on you. Made you a good boy.

                  Apathy and indifference are also things the Russians want so you’re their prime student.

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                  • #79
                    This is just g@y

                    if I was a Russia hater, I’d rejoice at the opportunity for someone to KO a Russian

                    if there’s any sport where people shouldn’t be banned because they’re hated, it’s boxing

                    Rocky is a hero because he faced the enemy head on by beating Ivan Drago

                    I won’t fight you because you from this country is the g@yest duck I heard

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

                      1. I put that quote in and it doesn’t come up. So link pls.

                      2. There is no other context. I said that and you replied to my comment by calling it asinine. You’re SUCH a weasel. Just admit you were wrong fcs.


                      3. Ok so now you’re a psychic. Now that’s a very solid argument for a tinfoil trollman! Lmao can’t make this up…


                      4. It wasn’t only America. And yeah it was wrong of them.

                      5. Same principle. No one attacked Russia. Russia attacked Ukraine. There is no justification.

                      6. Good you agree. You still might have some hope. You just gotta study history a little bit.

                      You might not intentionally be a Russian troll but you’re parroting the same opinions as Russian trolls. So you’ve bought their lies while believing you’re being some exceptionally smart independent thinker. They have done a good job on you. Made you a good boy.

                      Apathy and indifference are also things the Russians want so you’re their prime student.

                      1. It's literally the 1st result in google... blackrock.jpg


                      2. Discussing Sports personalities opinions being relevant to the average sports viewer =/= ​The geopolitical conversation that we're having..

                      How you're conflating the two i'll never know, hence why I said you're stripping context to fit a narrative.

                      3. Don't need to be psychic, history shows us...

                      4. Let's not pretend America doesn't essentially bully other countries in the west into doing their bidding since WW2 and effectively seizing control due to debt, hence my aversion to what's happening right now with the Ukraine and this time it won't be a country it could potentially be a singular private citizen...

                      5. Who was justifying anything, I'm simply pointing out reasons, you're making assumptions about it being a justification...

                      6. I don't agree with anything you've said, particularly when it comes to Nuland and McCain, Christ you're beyond the pale if you think I'd ever agree with you regarding their involvement with the Ukrainian uprising and it's eventual outcome...

                      I'm not apathetic, indifferent or influenced by trolls what you're failing to understand is i'm arguing for both the rights and privacy of the average Ukrainians which have been slowly eroded slowly over time by things such as Дія whist also being accelerated by this war as their "president" invites more "help" in whilst stripping works rights, privatizing state owned enterprises so on and so forth...

                      Not only that I'm also seeing things from the Russian side which feels it's being cornered by NATO and it's allies and feel it's left with no other recourse as it's seen what happens to others who're deemed "enemies" or "threats"...

                      Seeing the other side of things doesn't mean you agree with the aforementioned side, I didn't feel that needed to be explained but apparently it does for some reason.
                      Last edited by Boro; 02-23-2023, 11:19 AM.

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