Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko Protests Inclusion of Russian Athletes at 2024 Olympics

[alexjust]

Insulting people's intelligence while offering an oversimplified manichaean analysis of this war and avoiding all the questions that have been asked in this thread isn't exactly the best way to show that you're smarter than the posters who made these comments. It proves the opposite in fact. A prepubescent teenager could have written your first paragraph.

No one is dumber and more misguided than a man who can't think for himself. Do yourself a favor and turn off your TV.

I don't watch TV. Neither do you, perhaps, but for very different reason. "Think for yourself" - I hear this a lot from those who claim that 9/11 was an inside job, Trump won in 2020 and Americans never landed on the Moon. People cannot possibly just miraculously think for themselves in the meaning that you put into it, we get information from different sources and it comes down to how we process it. Unless you are personally in the White House you will have to get the information from the media. Your tinfoil hat is coming off, make sure it seats tight or you will, heavens forbid, start thinking that ***** is an evil dictator. No-no, we can't have that.

[alexjust]

"The civilized world" is not the civilized one in this case, Ukraine has been destabilized by violence since 2014, when a U.S.-sponsored coup d’etat overthrew its ********ically elected government, which as we know eventually lead to the invasion by Russia...

Let's also not forget Condoleezza Rice and her 2014 interview -

"The Russian economy is vulnerable. 80% of Russian exports are in oil, gas and mineral. People say, well, the Europeans will run out of energy, well, the Russians will run out of cash before the Europeans run out of energy."

"You want to depend more on the North American energy platform, the tremendous bounty of oil and gas that we're finding in North America. You want to have pipelines that don't go through Ukraine and Russia. For years, we've tried to get the Europeans to be interested in different pipeline routes."

"It's time to do that. And so some of this is simply acting and acting as quickly as possible."

And let's not forget the Ukraine Reform Conference (URC) which ultimately is the Wests goal of getting the state to sell state-owned enterprises to private investors, along with calls for more privatization, deregulation, energy reform, tax and customs reform and other such things...

And then you have Zelensky licking the boots of Blackrock, J.P Morgan, Goldman Sachs it's beyond obvious what's happening to anyone who isn't a globalist shill...

Add to that the "conversations" about this war are more prevalent in the WEF and IMF then places like NATO and such it becomes more than apparent that it's about the elites and serving their interests...

War has always transcended politics what a reductive statement to make....

A quote, bla bla bla interpretation of facts...and your point is? Other than, of course, spewing out mantra key words like "globalists", "elite", "mainstream media". I loved that glanced over "nuance" of "lead to invasion by Russia". Kinda a big deal, no? Care to elaborate?
I can offer you a few Russian propaganda talking points: biolaboratories, ****, drug addicts, where were you 8 years?, killing Russians by Ukrainian ****s, USA, USA, USA, USA, puppet Europe, USA, USA, USA, nuclear deterrent, we defended ourselves. But I'm sure you know them. Next time you want to come across not like a boxing fan, put forward facts, their logical interpretation and less of idiotic propaganda repetitions. Btw, you should have visited Ukraine at least once to see how Russians were "oppressed" there. I mean...it's ****ing hysterical. Especially when compared to Turkmenistan where Russians were really treated like **** since the 90s. But, you know what, nowhere in the world Russians are treated as badly as they are treated in Russia. You may sod off know with your tinfoil, pseudo-knowledge. Stick to boxing and tell me how AJ ducked Wilder.

[Brutus1]

If this guy kept his mouth shut while the US was bombing and invading countries, then he should keep his mouth shut now when the shoe is on the other foot.

[Boro]

A quote, bla bla bla interpretation of facts...and your point is? Other than, of course, spewing out mantra key words like "globalists", "elite", "mainstream media". I loved that glanced over "nuance" of "lead to invasion by Russia". Kinda a big deal, no? Care to elaborate?
I can offer you a few Russian propaganda talking points: biolaboratories, ****, drug addicts, where were you 8 years?, killing Russians by Ukrainian ****s, USA, USA, USA, USA, puppet Europe, USA, USA, USA, nuclear deterrent, we defended ourselves. But I'm sure you know them. Next time you want to come across not like a boxing fan, put forward facts, their logical interpretation and less of idiotic propaganda repetitions. Btw, you should have visited Ukraine at least once to see how Russians were "oppressed" there. I mean...it's ****ing hysterical. Especially when compared to Turkmenistan where Russians were really treated like **** since the 90s. But, you know what, nowhere in the world Russians are treated as badly as they are treated in Russia. You may sod off know with your tinfoil, pseudo-knowledge. Stick to boxing and tell me how AJ ducked Wilder.

IDGAF about who's "defending" themselves or not you clown, doesn't change the fact they're being used as a tool for corporate interests and if you believe otherwise you're a naive fool, it's the new more polite and "less intrusive colonization".

As for you "pseudo-knowledge" comment don't make laugh you imbecile, they do and say this stuff in plain sight, it's not "pseudo-knowledge" in the slightest if you want to remain blind/willfully ignorant then that's your choose.

E.G. World leaders like Boris Johnson actively encouraging Zelensky to NOT engage in peace talks to ensure the ruination of their country, the joining of EU/NATO, ensuring their "rebuild plan succeeds" and and ultimately their complete and utter reliance on the west.

Joe ***** “If Russia invades… then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” and then what happens? "surprisingly" it gets bombed and who's to blame non other than Russia because Russia apparently cut their nose to spite their face...

And let's not forget the Condoleezza's comments I mentioned, good old sleepy Joe was VP whilst she made them comments and his own sons nefarious dealings with Ukraine,China and Russia...

It's so obvious a blind man could see what's occurring...

[BodyBagz]

If this guy kept his mouth shut while the US was bombing and invading countries, then he should keep his mouth shut now when the shoe is on the other foot.

This is true.

In fact, if we cancelled out EVERY country that did dirt, only mini countries (pop less than 5 mil and with no ethnic diversity) would be lovable.
Not sure if many people lost sleep over homicidal dictators getting squashed but you never know.

[letsgochump]

A quote, bla bla bla interpretation of facts...and your point is? Other than, of course, spewing out mantra key words like "globalists", "elite", "mainstream media". I loved that glanced over "nuance" of "lead to invasion by Russia". Kinda a big deal, no? Care to elaborate?
I can offer you a few Russian propaganda talking points: biolaboratories, ****, drug addicts, where were you 8 years?, killing Russians by Ukrainian ****s, USA, USA, USA, USA, puppet Europe, USA, USA, USA, nuclear deterrent, we defended ourselves. But I'm sure you know them. Next time you want to come across not like a boxing fan, put forward facts, their logical interpretation and less of idiotic propaganda repetitions. Btw, you should have visited Ukraine at least once to see how Russians were "oppressed" there. I mean...it's ****ing hysterical. Especially when compared to Turkmenistan where Russians were really treated like **** since the 90s. But, you know what, nowhere in the world Russians are treated as badly as they are treated in Russia. You may sod off know with your tinfoil, pseudo-knowledge. Stick to boxing and tell me how AJ ducked Wilder.

There is no point in arguing with tinfoils. They don't argue based on facts or proof but beliefs. And you cannot prove beliefs wrong. It's a complete waste of time as frustrating it is to see people be smug about repeating obvious and weak ruski propaganda. It's just so sad that in this day and age when you have infinite amounts of information available to you so many people are wilfully and proudly ignorant and yet they act as if ignorance should valued as high as knowledge and wisdom.

They pick whatever information supporting their view, cut comments out of context and then formulate a pseudo evidential picture that is nothing but a silly oversimplification.

It is so sad that people are like "Ha! this politician is corrupt so I ain't buying their lies!! Lemme go buy *****'s lies instead because he is saying the opposite so it has to be true!"

Somehow I though anyone living in the west would be smart enough to see through obvious lies from Russia but no. I thought ppl like Chinese, North Koreans and Russians were just used to being lied to and controlled but apparently even people living in the free world want to buy lies coming from a totalitarian tyrant.

And attack a man who has shown heart in the sport they love plus he has stayed and defended his country from an aggressor for a year. Wlad is a champ in the ring and outside of it too. And these people attack him while defending a mass murdering tyrant bcs "sports should not be mixed with politics" which is laughable. What do these people think sports are if not politics lol. You can't separate the two no matter what.

[Boro]

There is no point in arguing with tinfoils. They don't argue based on facts or proof but beliefs. And you cannot prove beliefs wrong. It's a complete waste of time as frustrating it is to see people be smug about repeating obvious and weak ruski propaganda. It's just so sad that in this day and age when you have infinite amounts of information available to you so many people are wilfully and proudly ignorant and yet they act as if ignorance should valued as high as knowledge and wisdom.

They pick whatever information supporting their view, cut comments out of context and then formulate a pseudo evidential picture that is nothing but a silly oversimplification.

It is so sad that people are like "Ha! this politician is corrupt so I ain't buying their lies!! Lemme go buy *****'s lies instead because he is saying the opposite so it has to be true!"

Somehow I though anyone living in the west would be smart enough to see through obvious lies from Russia but no. I thought ppl like Chinese, North Koreans and Russians were just used to being lied to and controlled but apparently even people living in the free world want to buy lies coming from a totalitarian tyrant.

And attack a man who has shown heart in the sport they love plus he has stayed and defended his country from an aggressor for a year. Wlad is a champ in the ring and outside of it too. And these people attack him while defending a mass murdering tyrant bcs "sports should not be mixed with politics" which is laughable. What do these people think sports are if not politics lol. You can't separate the two no matter what.

There is no "tinfoil" you rétard, Zelensky is on TV, literally stating how Blackrock , J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs will help rebuild and restructure Ukraine economically you simpleton, they've been actively taking away workers right and privatizing for years at the very least since the U.S.-sponsored coup d’etat in 2014 with the UK leading the charge on how to take away said "rights"...

Then you've got Condoleezza,*****,Boris, Ursula von der Leyen so on and so forth making numerous statements regarding the previous actions and current actions leading to the events currently and previously unfolding on video I might add so let's not pretend this is "out of context" as your claim...

the audacity to mention "infinite amounts of info" and yet you're so self absorbed you can't even see beyond your own world view or willing to look...

And who mentioned believing *****?

***** is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things he's a pawn in a bigger picture, they knew he'd react the way he did he'd been actively warning NATO/EU for decades and they continued to poke the bear as it were.

If you can't fathom the depths of their agenda that's on you but don't accuse people of conspiracy theories because you can't wrap your head around simple notions.

And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics, most people couldn't give a fúck about your political leaning or views in sports, it's a means of escape for most people it's the last place anyone wants to hear about that shít E.G. NFL losing viewers to WOKE BS...

[letsgochump]

There is no "tinfoil" you rétard, Zelensky is on TV, literally stating how Blackrock , J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs will help rebuild and restructure Ukraine economically you simpleton, they've been actively taking away workers right and privatizing for years at the very least since the U.S.-sponsored coup d’etat in 2014 with the UK leading the charge on how to take away said "rights"...

Then you've got Condoleezza,*****,Boris, Ursula von der Leyen so on and so forth making numerous statements regarding the previous actions and current actions leading to the events currently and previously unfolding on video I might add so let's not pretend this is "out of context" as your claim...

the audacity to mention "infinite amounts of info" and yet you're so self absorbed you can't even see beyond your own world view or willing to look...

And who mentioned believing *****?

***** is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things he's a pawn in a bigger picture, they knew he'd react the way he did he'd been actively warning NATO/EU for decades and they continued to poke the bear as it were.

If you can't fathom the depths of their agenda that's on you but don't accuse people of conspiracy theories because you can't wrap your head around simple notions.

And lastly what an asinine statement regarding sports and politics, most people couldn't give a fúck about your political leaning or views in sports, it's a means of escape for most people it's the last place anyone wants to hear about that shít E.G. NFL losing viewers to WOKE BS...

You are the definition of tinfoil spewing the ultra naive idiotic WEF NWO globalist tinfoil narrative. Get a life. You may as well be under *****’s desk sucking him off while he lies with a straight face.

You underline your own ignorance with that comment about sports. Just because a hillbilly watching sports in a trailer park doesn’t see the connection between politics and sports doesn’t mean it’s not there. Thinking sports are somehow separate from politics is like believing in Santa Claus as a grown up. Or a globalist elite causing Russia to attack Ukraine. Both are equally childish.

But I know your kind and evidence doesn’t matter so I have interest in hearing about your imaginary friends and foes. Have a great life and don’t forget to check the Walmart coupons for tinfoil since you’ll need it.

[Boro]

You are the definition of tinfoil spewing the ultra naive idiotic WEF NWO globalist tinfoil narrative. Get a life. You may as well be under *****’s desk sucking him off while he lies with a straight face.

You underline your own ignorance with that comment about sports. Just because a hillbilly watching sports in a trailer park doesn’t see the connection between politics and sports doesn’t mean it’s not there. Thinking sports are somehow separate from politics is like believing in Santa Claus as a grown up. Or a globalist elite causing Russia to attack Ukraine. Both are equally childish.

But I know your kind and evidence doesn’t matter so I have interest in hearing about your imaginary friends and foes. Have a great life and don’t forget to check the Walmart coupons for tinfoil since you’ll need it.

It's not a "narrative" you simpleton, as I've pointed numerous time they aren't hiding their plans you imbecile.

They outline their intentions in places like the IMF, WEF, EU Parliament so on so forth.

As for your idiotic statement to me about politics and sports, I never mentioned them being disconnected you fool.

I said people don't care about their "sports person/clubs" political tripe.

They'd much rather they keep that shít to themselves, I respect Wlad as an athlete/boxer IDGAF about his political/religious opinions or home life and I KNOW many others are in the same boat...

Your inability to comprehend that and then and act high and mighty is beyond laughable to me, they only person displaying ignorance throughout this exchange has been you my friend.

You mention access to information, yet refuse to look to said information other than ones that align with your viewpoint, you read my post and don't even fully comprehend what's been said yet you reply just to spew rhetoric and do such in a condescending and immature manner.

As for your "trailer park comment" don't know why you felt the need to mention your lifestyle to me, i'm not concerned with your welfare collecting self.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

To see so many people justifying war and aggression is sad.

I only see one country being attacked.

Glory to Ukraine!