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  • #61
    Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

    Well there it is! First question asked AND dodged lmao. Can't make this up. But sure, focus on spelling as if that works as a distraction. This is 100% following the script of a conversation with a tinfoil.

    You talk big but as soon as one question is asked you tuck tail. Pls enlighten us, what exactly is going on then? What's this war about according to you?
    Do you not comprehend English son, "I don't need to answer, the fact you've not seen any of the above point indicates you're living in a echo chamber", I swear you're beyond simple... the nuances of language are clearly lost on you, simpleton.

    If the multiple points I've mentioned like - CBDC, Privatization, taking away workers rights, tax and custom reform, taking away Europeans reliance on Russian oil and gas and numerous other points I've made doesn't make it more than apparent what is going on, I don't know what to tell a smooth brain like you...

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Boro View Post

      Do you not comprehend English son, "I don't need to answer, the fact you've not seen any of the above point indicates you're living in a echo chamber", I swear you're beyond simple... the nuances of language are clearly lost on you, simpleton.

      If the multiple points I've mentioned like - CBDC, Privatization, taking away workers rights, tax and custom reform, taking away Europeans reliance on Russian oil and gas and numerous other points I've made doesn't make it more than apparent what is going on, I don't know what to tell a smooth brain like you...
      That is a dodge. You’re giving an excuse to avoid giving precise and clear answers.

      This is tinfoil behaviour 101. I guess you never knew how obvious and predictable you are being.


      Just like your second paragraph, this vague wishy washy language to some grand conspiracy that - of course - you will not spell out because then you could and would be forced to provide evidence or to admit you have none. Or more typically weasel out of the debate which seems likely for you too based on your last answer.

      So - who is behind the war according to you? The Bilderbergs? Freemasons? NWO? Illuminati? The globalists? Aliens? Lizards?

      Or shall we get some more nonsense and excuses for why won’t give clear answers?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

        That is a dodge. You’re giving an excuse to avoid giving precise and clear answers.

        This is tinfoil behaviour 101. I guess you never knew how obvious and predictable you are being.


        Just like your second paragraph, this vague wishy washy language to some grand conspiracy that - of course - you will not spell out because then you could and would be forced to provide evidence or to admit you have none. Or more typically weasel out of the debate which seems likely for you too based on your last answer.

        So - who is behind the war according to you? The Bilderbergs? Freemasons? NWO? Illuminati? The globalists? Aliens? Lizards?

        Or shall we get some more nonsense and excuses for why won’t give clear answers?
        No one is dodging anything, as I said your lack of understanding of the English language isn't my problem child.

        You haven't asked me for evidence and evidence of what?

        Condoleezza rice saying Russia is vulnerable due to 80% of their exports in oil, gas and minerals - https://clipchamp.com/watch/rPRd91QUBY6

        ***** saying "they'll no longer be nord stream 2" -https://clipchamp.com/watch/rdurTvuT3oY

        Zelensky wanting to "attract the attention of blackrock, JP morgan and Goldman Sach" - https://clipchamp.com/watch/wW54osiV0oW

        Fedorov who is the "the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine" the first of his kind and became such after the comedian Zelensky became president...

        And has been actively implementing the "e-governance" app - Дія and it's numerous infringements on privacy as well as him and others at the URC laid out their plans -

        "The goal of the Digital for Freedom initiative is to build the first absolutely free, transparent and efficient digital state and to share this experience with the world. By implementing this initiative, Ukraine will be able to become a beacon of digitalization for the countries of Eurasia and beyond, contributing to the overall global digital transformation.

        The need to start implementing this initiative without delay has become apparent within the recent months, when the digital infrastructure has essentially become one of the main pillars of Ukraine’s resilience.

        Now, more than ever, Ukraine is in a greater need of support and assistance from the global tech leaders. We ask you to help Ukraine in what you are the best – building advanced ecosystems, integrating the life of the country and each of Ukrainian citizens into a reliable and convenient digital space, uniting people and services, and in total – making the world a better place.
        "

        One example of a government and it's plans with Ukraine - https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...rade-agreement

        You can keep thinking i'm making this "stuff up" but you're beyond delusional if you think that...

        P.S. Let's not forget Condoleezza comments are almost a decade before Russia invaded Ukraine and ***** was months before and both were in the white house together, either they're clairvoyants or it's been planned, you decide if you can manage an original thought...
        Last edited by Boro; 02-07-2023, 01:47 PM. Reason: P.S.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boro View Post

          Upset, LOL thanks for the laugh mate, I called him sleepy joe because I've seen the rétard fall to sleep on TV the few time's I've seen him and practically drooling on himself whilst giving speeches...

          I'm not from the US, so your rétarded assumptions about "MAGA" were redundant as well, who's pro Russia like?

          Russia could be wiped off the face of the earth for all I care as could Ukraine, I was discussing a war for corporate interests, not Russia or Ukraine like I said previously they're just a cog in the machine in the grand scheme of things...

          You two made it about me apparently aligning with Russia but you're gravely mistaken, every Russian man I've meet is a cúnt and quite frankly I doubt the leader of said country is any different.
          I see, so you are a racist to top it all off. Quite predictable for a MAGA. MAGA has gone international, you don't need to be an American anymore to be a moron supporting right wing degenerates. You may **** off now.


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          • #65
            Originally posted by Boro View Post

            No one is dodging anything, as I said your lack of understanding of the English language isn't my problem child.

            You haven't asked me for evidence and evidence of what?

            Condoleezza rice saying Russia is vulnerable due to 80% of their exports in oil, gas and minerals - https://clipchamp.com/watch/rPRd91QUBY6

            ***** saying "they'll no longer be nord stream 2" -https://clipchamp.com/watch/rdurTvuT3oY

            Zelensky wanting to "attract the attention of blackrock, JP morgan and Goldman Sach" - https://clipchamp.com/watch/wW54osiV0oW

            Fedorov who is the "the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine" the first of his kind and became such after the comedian Zelensky became president...

            And has been actively implementing the "e-governance" app - Дія and it's numerous infringements on privacy as well as him and others at the URC laid out their plans -

            "The goal of the Digital for Freedom initiative is to build the first absolutely free, transparent and efficient digital state and to share this experience with the world. By implementing this initiative, Ukraine will be able to become a beacon of digitalization for the countries of Eurasia and beyond, contributing to the overall global digital transformation.

            The need to start implementing this initiative without delay has become apparent within the recent months, when the digital infrastructure has essentially become one of the main pillars of Ukraine’s resilience.

            Now, more than ever, Ukraine is in a greater need of support and assistance from the global tech leaders. We ask you to help Ukraine in what you are the best – building advanced ecosystems, integrating the life of the country and each of Ukrainian citizens into a reliable and convenient digital space, uniting people and services, and in total – making the world a better place.
            "

            One example of a government and it's plans with Ukraine - https://www.gov.uk/government/collec...rade-agreement

            You can keep thinking i'm making this "stuff up" but you're beyond delusional if you think that...

            P.S. Let's not forget Condoleezza comments are almost a decade before Russia invaded Ukraine and ***** was months before and both were in the white house together, either they're clairvoyants or it's been planned, you decide if you can manage an original thought...
            I perfectly understand that you're dodging questions bcs you don't have the answers.

            Evidence for your claims that the war is not Russia attacking Ukraine but that there is some other plot going on that apparently only tinfoils in their crusty boxers like you are aware of. I'm not sure what you're saying bcs in typical tinfoil fashion you're just insinuating things without being clear. This ofc is because if you actually said something clear and concrete you would instantly look ridiculous.

            I will not make conclusions for you. But let's see...

            So Condoleeza is right, Russia is vulnerable due to these reasons yes. And Nord Stream 2 was a Russian trick, they paid off people in the nearby countries to support the project. ***** has very good reasons to be su****ious and against the project. In case you haven't noticed USA has been very su****ious about Russia since ***** became president and it became obvious they were not going to become a democracy.

            Zelensky needs funding for the rebuilt for the country so what is surprising about this?

            And finally Ukraine is in need of all kinds of help so what is so weird about the quote you gave me?

            So because Condoleeza Rice made comments there is proof that the war is not Russia's fault? Or if I'm missing something pls elaborate. If this is your best proof then you're precisely as crooked as all other tinfoils. You're drawing unjustified conclusions.

            This ofc again is typical. Drawing wild conclusions on minimal evidence and calling everyone else ****** for not seeing this very one sided and filtered image.

            You and other tinfoils need these evil global elite conspiracies to feel smart. If you actually needed to study politics, sociology, social psychology etc it would be way harder and the world would look so much more complex than this silly narrative you have that is basically out of a cheap movie script where some evil rich entity is trying to take over the world. Come on.




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            • #66
              Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

              I perfectly understand that you're dodging questions bcs you don't have the answers.

              Evidence for your claims that the war is not Russia attacking Ukraine but that there is some other plot going on that apparently only tinfoils in their crusty boxers like you are aware of. I'm not sure what you're saying bcs in typical tinfoil fashion you're just insinuating things without being clear. This ofc is because if you actually said something clear and concrete you would instantly look ridiculous.

              I will not make conclusions for you. But let's see...

              So Condoleeza is right, Russia is vulnerable due to these reasons yes. And Nord Stream 2 was a Russian trick, they paid off people in the nearby countries to support the project. ***** has very good reasons to be su****ious and against the project. In case you haven't noticed USA has been very su****ious about Russia since ***** became president and it became obvious they were not going to become a democracy.

              Zelensky needs funding for the rebuilt for the country so what is surprising about this?

              And finally Ukraine is in need of all kinds of help so what is so weird about the quote you gave me?

              So because Condoleeza Rice made comments there is proof that the war is not Russia's fault? Or if I'm missing something pls elaborate. If this is your best proof then you're precisely as crooked as all other tinfoils. You're drawing unjustified conclusions.

              This ofc again is typical. Drawing wild conclusions on minimal evidence and calling everyone else ****** for not seeing this very one sided and filtered image.

              You and other tinfoils need these evil global elite conspiracies to feel smart. If you actually needed to study politics, sociology, social psychology etc it would be way harder and the world would look so much more complex than this silly narrative you have that is basically out of a cheap movie script where some evil rich entity is trying to take over the world. Come on.



              Who said I was drawing evidence on the war based on those videos you rétard, I just posted a few clips because you claimed I was making shít up...

              And the fact you're so simple you can't grasp the fact the private enterprise shouldn't be actively helping in rebuilding a country rather than government(s) agreeing plans with one another similar to the Marshall plan blows my mind....

              Try looking into Digital 4 freedom because apparently telling you numerous times doesn't get through your thick skill...

              And how they intend to have AI run courts, cashless & paperless society, Digital passports, CBDCs, social credit score as I said to you in the very post you quoted Дія already infringe on the privacy of users in numerous ways and the aforementioned will infringe on said privacy even further but it won't be government with your information, it'll be private companies...

              And these plans they intend to bring forward with the likes Blackrock, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and various tech giants is with the intent of using Ukraine as a beta test like they did with the use of Delta during this war, you naive fool...

              Nord stream 2 was a Russian trick? you're beyond hilarious their entire economy is based upon the trade of oil and gas why would the sabotage a line that's part-owned by their biggest buyer of said commodity? you really are brain dead...

              And who implied Condoleeza Rices comments was proof of the war not being Russia's fault?

              Let's also not act like that interview didn't happen EXACTLY around the time the previously mentioned coup d'etat happened in the Ukraine.

              And let's not also forget the fact she mentioned switching Europe from a reliance on Russian oil and Gas to NA oil and gas or are you conveniently forgetting that part of her lil speech because it doesn't fit your narrative...

              Let's also not pretend ***** mentioning destroying Nord stream 2 is just a mere coincidence and Condolezzas and *****s comments are completely unrelated...

              You seem to hate acknowledging the very oddly timed coincidences that consistently happen... You know what repeated and consistent actions equate to? a pattern of behavior my friend...

              And the audacity of a sheeple like you calling anyone "tinfoil" when you make claims like "russian trick" and you can't even manage an original thought and just parrot MSM it's beyond the pale tbh...

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boro View Post

                Who said I was drawing evidence on the war based on those videos you rétard, I just posted a few clips because you claimed I was making shít up...

                And the fact you're so simple you can't grasp the fact the private enterprise shouldn't be actively helping in rebuilding a country rather than government(s) agreeing plans with one another similar to the Marshall plan blows my mind....

                Try looking into Digital 4 freedom because apparently telling you numerous times doesn't get through your thick skill...

                And how they intend to have AI run courts, cashless & paperless society, Digital passports, CBDCs, social credit score as I said to you in the very post you quoted Дія already infringe on the privacy of users in numerous ways and the aforementioned will infringe on said privacy even further but it won't be government with your information, it'll be private companies...

                And these plans they intend to bring forward with the likes Blackrock, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and various tech giants is with the intent of using Ukraine as a beta test like they did with the use of Delta during this war, you naive fool...

                Nord stream 2 was a Russian trick? you're beyond hilarious their entire economy is based upon the trade of oil and gas why would the sabotage a line that's part-owned by their biggest buyer of said commodity? you really are brain dead...

                And who implied Condoleeza Rices comments was proof of the war not being Russia's fault?

                Let's also not act like that interview didn't happen EXACTLY around the time the previously mentioned coup d'etat happened in the Ukraine.

                And let's not also forget the fact she mentioned switching Europe from a reliance on Russian oil and Gas to NA oil and gas or are you conveniently forgetting that part of her lil speech because it doesn't fit your narrative...

                Let's also not pretend ***** mentioning destroying Nord stream 2 is just a mere coincidence and Condolezzas and *****s comments are completely unrelated...

                You seem to hate acknowledging the very oddly timed coincidences that consistently happen... You know what repeated and consistent actions equate to? a pattern of behavior my friend...

                And the audacity of a sheeple like you calling anyone "tinfoil" when you make claims like "russian trick" and you can't even manage an original thought and just parrot MSM it's beyond the pale tbh...
                Well I asked you what is going on according to you bcs you seemed to think it is not Russia attacking Ukraine. Why are you telling me all this if it isn’t about the war?

                So according to you it is the plan of Condoleeza and others (who?) to cause Russia to attack Ukraine so they can build social credit scores? That is what is ACTUALLY going on in your view?

                If you don’t wanna be called a tinfoil then stop being a stereotypical tinfoil. Sheeple? You’re like parody of tinfoils but you’re serious.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

                  Well I asked you what is going on according to you bcs you seemed to think it is not Russia attacking Ukraine. Why are you telling me all this if it isn’t about the war?

                  So according to you it is the plan of Condoleeza and others (who?) to cause Russia to attack Ukraine so they can build social credit scores? That is what is ACTUALLY going on in your view?

                  If you don’t wanna be called a tinfoil then stop being a stereotypical tinfoil. Sheeple? You’re like parody of tinfoils but you’re serious.
                  My god you are beyond dense, the amount of things I've covered over multiple posts and the only thing you come away with is social credit...

                  You're beyond a joke, I knew i was dealing with a yokel but Christ almighty, it's redundant speaking to you, you're clearly lacking in the brain cell department.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Boro View Post

                    My god you are beyond dense, the amount of things I've covered over multiple posts and the only thing you come away with is social credit...

                    You're beyond a joke, I knew i was dealing with a yokel but Christ almighty, it's redundant speaking to you, you're clearly lacking in the brain cell department.
                    Yup. As expected. Nothing concrete, just vague over interpretation of random quotes here and there. The usual next step is running away from the debate with an excuse. Ofc you don’t actually think I’m ****** since you would jump or the chance to show your argument to be backed up by evidence. But you’re not. You’re focusing on everything else bcs you know you actually have nothing besides heavily filtered circumstancial evidence that only makes sense if you have the background assumption of this mysterious evil elite.

                    The version that every reasonable person shares of the events is that Russia and it’s over ambitious elite is trying to benefit from attacking a seemingly weak neighbour in an attempt to gain a foothold on European politics.

                    You’re saying this is ******. So could you, instead of weaseling around like a little coward, put into equally simple words that I just used what exactly is going on according to you?

                    Let’s hear the big picture covering 1. Who started the war 2. Why

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by letsgochump View Post

                      Yup. As expected. Nothing concrete, just vague over interpretation of random quotes here and there. The usual next step is running away from the debate with an excuse. Ofc you don’t actually think I’m ****** since you would jump or the chance to show your argument to be backed up by evidence. But you’re not. You’re focusing on everything else bcs you know you actually have nothing besides heavily filtered circumstancial evidence that only makes sense if you have the background assumption of this mysterious evil elite.

                      The version that every reasonable person shares of the events is that Russia and it’s over ambitious elite is trying to benefit from attacking a seemingly weak neighbour in an attempt to gain a foothold on European politics.

                      You’re saying this is ******. So could you, instead of weaseling around like a little coward, put into equally simple words that I just used what exactly is going on according to you?

                      Let’s hear the big picture covering 1. Who started the war 2. Why
                      I put it in simple words with multiple posts, not fault you're incapable of comprehending what's being said but let's simplify for you eh.

                      100's of billions worth of oil that Condelezza and ***** openly mention attacking and wanting Europe rely on Americas "plentiful bounty of oil"

                      Blackrock, JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs all actively participating in and helping rebuild and digitalize the entirety of the Ukrainian system whilst stripping away works rights and privatizing almost everything and using it as test bed for CBDCs before larger economies like those of the US and multiple EU countries adopt it assuming success...

                      Then you've got the Military–industrial complex not only standing to make huge profits but also testing weapon systems without risking their own people...

                      Why even ask who started the war, it's a rhetorical question, ***** had been saying for years before the annex of Crimea to stop with NATOs and EU's encroachment but they continued and successfully carried out their coup d'etat and that ultimately resulted in the aforementioned annexing of Crimea and eventually this war.

                      Either you're ignorant or willfully ignorant, either way it's pathetic to try and discuss these subjects with another person when you don't even have a grasp on the subject matter...

                      Lastly who mentioned someone "mysterious evil elite" you imbecile, all the groups I've mentioned have made public statements about their intentions to imply there is anything "mysterious and evil" is beyond laughable.

                      I never implied for profit wars were evil, I just pointed that's what this situation is... You've assumed I think they're evil, quite frankly I couldn't careless how people make money what I do care about in this situation is people know ALL THE INFORMATION rather than just the MSM version of events...
                      Last edited by Boro; 02-13-2023, 12:01 PM.

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