Roach: "Floyd Needs Pacquiao, We Don't Need Him"

[kadyo's]

Agreed. To much ego from both sides. The fans will be the ones to really lose because any split close to 50/50 guarantees both fighters huge sums of money.

Maybe a higher PPV pac-cotto fight will force to take a 50-50 split but I don't think team will have any of it.

[JAB5239]

I'm not sure I just saw an article...

On BoxRec it claims both were guaranteed $2.5 million each in the first fight

Maybe thats the fight I'm thinking of, but I could swear I've read something to the effect of what I wrote happened in one of these fights. Might have read it in the don King or Ali biographies, not sure.

[handler000]

Ain't that what Floyd said when Max brougt up Shane? I have to talk to my managers? Go back and listen and tell me if I am wrong.

DVR is wonderful. He said he lets Haymon and Ellerbe set up his bouts and then said he's not scared of Mosley or any fighter. But what does that have to do with Shane offering him 8mil? Does that sound like he really wanted the fight?

[JAB5239]

Maybe a higher PPV pac-cotto fight will force to take a 50-50 split but I don't think team will have any of it.

I don't think so either. If any side budges I think it would be Pacquiao, but the way it looks that probably won't happen.

The ideal circumstance would be for both ides to just clear everybody else out at 147 so no one else remained but the two, kind of forcing a 50/50 split to see who was really the best. Fat chance of that happening in this day and age though.

[Bhopreign]

The only way Floyd does a 50-50 is if he gets a very substantial cut in the PPV. Other than that no way and he shouldnt, Pac should be lucky to get 40%, Ive said that for a long time now. His numbers just cant compete with Floyd's, its easy math.

[jrosales13]

Floyd has been calling Mosley and Delahoya out ever since he was a jnr lightwieght as a matter of fact.It was in ring magazine and other boxing mags.

Arum gave Shane an offer when Floyd was at 130. And, Shane was at 135. Shane tho decided to skip 2 weight-classes and campaign at WW to hopefully fight a prime Oscar. After Floyd did not call him out. He started calling Hamed out. Actually he really wanted to fight Hamed Barrerra ruined that for him. Floyd at 135 never called Shane but he started calling out Oscar. At 140 He called out Oscar and Gatti. After the Bruseles fight at 140 Is when Floyd called out Shane. At that point Shane was coming off 2 straight losses to Wright. After Gatti. Floyd focus was on Judah not Shane. After Judah Floyd focus was an Oscar not Shane. After Oscar Shane called him out. Cotto was willing to fight him. Floyd chose Hatton. Cotto beat Shane and was still willing to fight Floyd. Floyd on the other hand was going to have a rematch with Oscar until he felt Oscar low balled him. And, retired.

If Floyd was serious to skipping 2 weight-classes to fight Oscar and Shane. Why didn't he just skipped the 2 weight-classes and started campaining at WW? That what Mosley did. He skipped 140 and his first fight at 147 was against Rivera? I am not sure who. But, the point he was campaining there cuz he was serious. Floyd was talking about it but didn't do nothing about it?

Another Floyd is about the money right? Right now Mayweather-Shane is a bigger fight than it was 3yrs ago or 10yrs ago. Is more money for both fighters. Fact is Floyd would get more money fighting Shane now than what he would of before.

[dionysius]

PAC WON'T EVEN GET A CLOSE 50-50 SPLIT IN MAYWEATHER FIGHT. YOU KNOW WHY? HE IS FILIPINO.

SEE THIS? THIS IS THE TV SERIES "LOST" CAST AND CHARACTERS. THE ENTIRE UNITED NATIONS IS HERE.. DO YOU SEE ANY SOUTHEAST ASIAN IN THERE? NOTHING.

[jrosales13]

DVR is wonderful. He said he lets Haymon and Ellerbe set up his bouts and then said he's not scared of Mosley or any fighter. But what does that have to do with Shane offering him 8mil? Does that sound like he really wanted the fight?

But, that was my point to my comment that you did not read apparently. When I said Floyd is his own promoter until Shane name is brougt up. That is when he lets Haymon and Ellerbe set up his bouts.

But, to your point of Shane offering 8mil. What Floyd comeback with? 20mil right. And, wasn't Shane that was willing to negotiate? umm yes it was. And, it was Floyd who refuse to come down from his guarantee 20mill. Yea you do not want to mention that part huh? Is OK. And, then Floyd fights JMM for half of what he wanted for Mosley.

I gaurantee you bro if PBF would of came down and ask for 13 mil guaranteed agaisnt Shane. Shane would of agreed. Honestly did Floyd not try to negotiate? And, kept demanding a 20mil guarantee? HMMM....

[Bhopreign]

Arum gave Shane an offer when Floyd was at 130. And, Shane was at 135. Shane tho decided to skip 2 weight-classes and campaign at WW to hopefully fight a prime Oscar. After Floyd did not call him out. He started calling Hamed out. Actually he really wanted to fight Hamed Barrerra ruined that for him. Floyd at 135 never called Shane but he started calling out Oscar. At 140 He called out Oscar and Gatti. After the Bruseles fight at 140 Is when Floyd called out Shane. At that point Shane was coming off 2 straight losses to Wright. After Gatti. Floyd focus was on Judah not Shane. After Judah Floyd focus was an Oscar not Shane. After Oscar Shane called him out. Cotto was willing to fight him. Floyd chose Hatton. Cotto beat Shane and was still willing to fight Floyd. Floyd on the other hand was going to have a rematch with Oscar until he felt Oscar low balled him. And, retired.

If Floyd was serious to skipping 2 weight-classes to fight Oscar and Shane. Why didn't he just skipped the 2 weight-classes and started campaining at WW? That what Mosley did. He skipped 140 and his first fight at 147 was against Rivera? I am not sure who. But, the point he was campaining there cuz he was serious. Floyd was talking about it but didn't do nothing about it?

Another Floyd is about the money right? Right now Mayweather-Shane is a bigger fight than it was 3yrs ago or 10yrs ago. Is more money for both fighters. Fact is Floyd would get more money fighting Shane now than what he would of before.

Maybe because Shane is bigger than Floyd and Floyd wanted to grow into 147 and also pick up checks at 140 along the way. Yes Shane skipped 140 but he had big bucks on his mind, why not fight Tsyzu at 140? Fact of the matter is Floyd wanted the big money fight years ago, Shane's dad said they would fight Floyd but for ,if I remember correctly, 10 million dollars, that wasnt going to happen.

[jrosales13]

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d45qL6nC_34
Enough said!!

That wast LW smart one. It was after the Henry Bruseles fight. And, then in the same sentence he says the Gatti fight will happen.