Fury and IBF

[Dubblechin]

I remember him well, not because of his performances in the ring but because of this saga.

What happened was that Fury signed a rematch clause with Wlad without formally notifying and asking permission from the IBF, whose mando was overdue. Wlad exorcised his right to an immediate rematch which meant that Fury was unable to fulfil his IBF mandatory obligation by fighting Glazkov next.

And that's my problem with sanctioning bodies and now groups like RING and other ratings groups that all so "desperately" want to be relevent yet continue to shoot themselves in the feet.

A group of guys get together to make up "their own rules" for boxing. A guy gets in the ring and beats the World Heavyweight Champion.

And the group of guys, 10 days later, say the champion is no longer champ because "they have rules." They "made up" the rules, of course, so they could certainly "change" the rules, and they often do ... but they suddenly act like their hands are tied. But if he'd asked for "permission" first, it would've been okay.

The IBF have named Charles Martin, Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz, Anthony Joshua again, and Oleksandr Usyk heavyweight champion ... four different guys and five separate reigns... and Fury still hasn't lost since he fought Wlad Klitschko.

To all the ratings bodies, if you want people to take you seriously, just rank the fighters you think are the best and stay the hell out of the way. That's all we want from ratings. Rate the top fighters.

I think the IBF burned its bridge with Fury.

[QueensburyRules]

And that's my problem with sanctioning bodies and now groups like RING and other ratings groups that all so "desperately" want to be relevent yet continue to shoot themselves in the feet.

A group of guys get together to make up "their own rules" for boxing. A guy gets in the ring and beats the World Heavyweight Champion.

And the group of guys, 10 days later, say the champion is no longer champ because "they have rules." They "made up" the rules, of course, so they could certainly "change" the rules, and they often do ... but they suddenly act like their hands are tied. But if he'd asked for "permission" first, it would've been okay.

The IBF have named Charles Martin, Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz, Anthony Joshua again, and Oleksandr Usyk heavyweight champion ... four different guys and five separate reigns... and Fury still hasn't lost since he fought Wlad Klitschko.

To all the ratings bodies, if you want people to take you seriously, just rank the fighters you think are the best and stay the hell out of the way. That's all we want from ratings. Rate the top fighters.

I think the IBF burned its bridge with Fury.

- - Flubber too busy racking up consecutive low hanging fruit bouts vs Deyonce, Whyte, and now Chisora.

Flubber in his Sissyboy stage now. Fell apart once MTK departed sparking his Ring strippage after 6 years of disgrace.

[kafkod]

And that's my problem with sanctioning bodies and now groups like RING and other ratings groups that all so "desperately" want to be relevent yet continue to shoot themselves in the feet.

A group of guys get together to make up "their own rules" for boxing. A guy gets in the ring and beats the World Heavyweight Champion.

And the group of guys, 10 days later, say the champion is no longer champ because "they have rules." They "made up" the rules, of course, so they could certainly "change" the rules, and they often do ... but they suddenly act like their hands are tied. But if he'd asked for "permission" first, it would've been okay.

The IBF have named Charles Martin, Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz, Anthony Joshua again, and Oleksandr Usyk heavyweight champion ... five different guys ... and Fury still hasn't lost since he fought Wlad Klitschko.

To all the ratings bodies, if you want people to take you seriously, just rank the fighters you think are the best and stay the hell out of the way. That's all we want from ratings. Rate the top fighters.

It all turned out to be irrelevant anyway, because the Fury/Wlad rematch didn't happen and Fury relinquished all his belts and "retired" with mental health problems.

[champion4ever]

Fury states he won't pay IBF sanctioning fees.

Does anyone know when sanctioning fees are actually owed. Is it after each win.

Fury isn't even IBF champ. So i would have thought he does not even need to pay for ibf sanctioning fees unless he is champ? So in that case can he not just fight Usyk for undisputed all belts on the line. Then the day after just drop the belt if he doesn't want to pay their sanctioning fees. Will still then go down as undisputed in the history books

It doesn't matter anyhow because Usyk is planning on vacating his IBF title anyway. The IBF has ordered a purse bid for his next mandatory challenger against Hrgovic. I guess Eddie said well if Joshua can't have an undisputed bout then Tyson Fury can't either

[Dubblechin]

It all turned out to be irrelevant anyway, because the Fury/Wlad rematch didn't happen and Fury relinquished all his belts and "retired" with mental health problems.

Well, it's still relevent because Fury isn't going to pay them a sanction fee in a unification bout. And the IBF doesn't rate the World Heavyweight Champion. The repurcussions from that poor decision in 2015 continue.

[kafkod]

It might turn out not to matter whether Fury wants to fight for the IBF belt or not. The IBF might decide to strip Usyk if he signs to fight the winner of Fury vs Chisora instead of Hrgovic, their mandatory.

But Alex Krassyuk, Usyk's promoter, said in an interview yesterday that the WBA mando is due before any of the others. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens if Usyk and the Fury/Chisora winner sign to fight other next.

[Boxing 112]

No real answer then. If Fury also has to pay a sanctioning fee. How much? It doesn't add up if he has to pay for inf sanctioming fee if he doesn't have the belt cause if he loses whats the point. If so how much is the fee

We know it's 3 percent for each champ i think


So if he has to pay a fee for undisputed fight before the fight (not talking just his wbc fee we are talking aboit if he needs to pay ibf) then how much still doesn't add up

[Boxing 112]

It doesn't matter anyhow because Usyk is planning on vacating his IBF title anyway. The IBF has ordered a purse bid for his next mandatory challenger against Hrgovic. I guess Eddie said well if Joshua can't have an undisputed bout then Tyson Fury can't either

We don't know that for sure. When the ibf news first came out i thought the same that hearn was planning to get hrgovic and aj for vacant belt. But it has gone quiet since
the purse bid has not officially been called
and hearn also mention he got a called from prince khaled from saudi, maybe he was told to steo aside with puttong pressure on ibf because saudi want fury usyk for undisputed. And hearn might listen as he'll want that future saudi money

If fury usyk fight fury wins
Saudi can tell him fury aj they will then pay for im saudi big money

But also at same time i can see hearn wanting o avoid fury getting to undisputed before ajs involved

[dan-b]

Fury says whatever's in his mind at a particular moment. Not worth analysing in any depth.

[kafkod]

Well, it's still relevent because Fury isn't going to pay them a sanction fee in a unification bout. And the IBF doesn't rate the World Heavyweight Champion. The repurcussions from that poor decision in 2015 continue.

The WBC don't rank the IBF, WBO, WBA and Ring Magazine World Heavyweight champion. None of the alphabet organisations rank fighters who hold titles with other organisations.