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  • Boxing 112
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    Fury and IBF

    Fury states he won't pay IBF sanctioning fees.

    Does anyone know when sanctioning fees are actually owed. Is it after each win.

    Fury isn't even IBF champ. So i would have thought he does not even need to pay for ibf sanctioning fees unless he is champ? So in that case can he not just fight Usyk for undisputed all belts on the line. Then the day after just drop the belt if he doesn't want to pay their sanctioning fees. Will still then go down as undisputed in the history books

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    His promoter won't allow him to do that. The money lost on nit calling the usyk fight undisputed is too much.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Boxing 112
      Fury states he won't pay IBF sanctioning fees.

      Does anyone know when sanctioning fees are actually owed. Is it after each win.

      Fury isn't even IBF champ. So i would have thought he does not even need to pay for ibf sanctioning fees unless he is champ? So in that case can he not just fight Usyk for undisputed all belts on the line. Then the day after just drop the belt if he doesn't want to pay their sanctioning fees. Will still then go down as undisputed in the history books
      I believe there’s a sanctioning fee for the fight too, paid for by the promoters, which may be taken out of both fighters earnings. At least that’s the case with the WBO, and WBO charge about 3x more if it’s a unification or undisputed fight and amount goes up depending on the combined purses of the fighters. So that alludes to the fact both sides pay for that fight. Or at least the promoter does and deducts it from the purses.

      that’s the WBO though, but I would imagine all of the sanctioning bodies have a very similar structure
      Last edited by deathofaclown; 12-02-2022, 09:47 AM.

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        Originally posted by Boxing 112
        Fury states he won't pay IBF sanctioning fees.

        Does anyone know when sanctioning fees are actually owed. Is it after each win.

        Fury isn't even IBF champ. So i would have thought he does not even need to pay for ibf sanctioning fees unless he is champ? So in that case can he not just fight Usyk for undisputed all belts on the line. Then the day after just drop the belt if he doesn't want to pay their sanctioning fees. Will still then go down as undisputed in the history books
        I imagine he's talking about paying fees for a unification with Usyk, if that fight happens.

        Fury was the IBF, WBA and WBO heavyweight champion when he took those titles off Wlad. Less than two weeks after beating Wlad, around the time the IBF got their payment from Fury, the IBF stripped Fury of their title for not immediately signing to fight the IBF's #1 contender Czar Glazkov (who could ever forget him - that's sarcasm).

        It was just a matter of days. Stripping him less than two weeks after winning the title was completely ridiculous. Of course, the great Czar Glazkov fought Charles Martin for the vacant title, Glazkov tore a ligament in his leg during the fight, Fury's "TITLE" was awarded to Charles Martin, and Czar Glazkov never fought again.

        The whole situation was a disgrace.

        So I can see, if Usyk brings the IBF belt into the ring with him for a unification with Fury, why Tyson would tell the IBF to go to hell.
        Last edited by Dubblechin; 12-02-2022, 10:09 AM.

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          If he fights Usyk, the IBF will only be on the line for Usyk. If Fury wins, it will likely become vacant as Fury will refuse to pay the fee’s.

          The sanctioning fee is usually not required until after the fight takes place. I’m pretty sure Mayweather never paid the WBO fee when he fought Pacquiao and the title was quickly made vacant leading to Bradley-Vargas for an interim title which later became the full version.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Boxing 112
            Fury states he won't pay IBF sanctioning fees.

            Does anyone know when sanctioning fees are actually owed. Is it after each win.

            Fury isn't even IBF champ. So i would have thought he does not even need to pay for ibf sanctioning fees unless he is champ? So in that case can he not just fight Usyk for undisputed all belts on the line. Then the day after just drop the belt if he doesn't want to pay their sanctioning fees. Will still then go down as undisputed in the history books
            Going by what happened in the Cotto/Canelo WBC MW title fight, sanctioning fees are paid, or at least agreed upon, before the fight takes place.

            Pre fight, Cotto declined to pay the WBC sanctioning fee because he said it was too much. The fight went ahead but only Canelo - who paid his fee - was eligible to pick up the title if he won the fight. Which he did, of course.

            Last edited by kafkod; 12-02-2022, 10:39 AM.

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              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              If he fights Usyk, the IBF will only be on the line for Usyk. If Fury wins, it will likely become vacant as Fury will refuse to pay the fee’s.

              The sanctioning fee is usually not required until after the fight takes place. I’m pretty sure Mayweather never paid the WBO fee when he fought Pacquiao and the title was quickly made vacant leading to Bradley-Vargas for an interim title which later became the full version.
              Maybe different orgs have different rules. Miguel Cotto was stripped of the WBC title 4 days before he was due to defend it against Canelo because he refused to pay the sanctioning fee.

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                Originally posted by Dubblechin

                I imagine he's talking about paying fees for a unification with Usyk, if that fight happens.

                Fury was the IBF, WBA and WBO heavyweight champion when he took those titles off Wlad. Less than two weeks after beating Wlad, around the time the IBF got their payment from Fury, the IBF stripped Fury of their title for not immediately signing to fight the IBF's #1 contender Czar Glazkov (who could ever forget him - that's sarcasm).

                It was just a matter of days. Stripping him less than two weeks after winning the title was completely ridiculous. Of course, the great Czar Glazkov fought Charles Martin for the vacant title, Glazkov tore a ligament in his leg during the fight, Fury's "TITLE" was awarded to Charles Martin, and Czar Glazkov never fought again.

                The whole situation was a disgrace.

                So I can see, if Usyk brings the IBF belt into the ring with him for a unification with Fury, why Tyson would tell the IBF to go to hell.
                I remember him well, not because of his performances in the ring but because of this saga.

                What happened was that Fury signed a rematch clause with Wlad without formally notifying and asking permission from the IBF, whose mando was overdue. Wlad exorcised his right to an immediate rematch which meant that Fury was unable to fulfil his IBF mandatory obligation by fighting Glazkov next.

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                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  Maybe different orgs have different rules. Miguel Cotto was stripped of the WBC title 4 days before he was due to defend it against Canelo because he refused to pay the sanctioning fee.
                  Cotto was probably upfront about it. I think Floyd just kept quiet and then just said F U when they came asking for it.

                  Even Cotto was only stripped during fight week wasn’t he? Pretty sure the orgs don’t take the payment until after the fight has happened.

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                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    Cotto was probably upfront about it. I think Floyd just kept quiet and then just said F U when they came asking for it.

                    Even Cotto was only stripped during fight week wasn’t he? Pretty sure the orgs don’t take the payment until after the fight has happened.
                    Yes, Cotto obviously told the WBC he wasn't going to pay the amount they wanted pre-fight.

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