Pound for Pound is About SKILLS not OPPOSITION

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  • fdotorres
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    #71
    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
    Huh? If Cotto beats Mayweather then how is he less skilled? He will obviously be more skilled how else would he have won, by luck? Maybe they'll make a LUCK P4P list to ******s like you whom don't understand what p4p means.
    so margarito has more skills than cotto according to you?

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    • PRINCSHERPY
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      #72
      ****** racist clown Fulcum is getting his ass owned!


      bwahahahahahahahahaha


      [IMG]http://i973.***********.com/albums/ae214/SHERPAKOVSKI/fldcly.gif[/IMG]

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      • Glamour Puss
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        #73
        Originally posted by Fulcrum29
        Please, son you're embarrassing yourself. I'm here to save you from yourself. Oscars only biggest PPV were against other big names. What don't you get, NO ONE has ever gotten consistent high PPV's without having big names to fight that's how boxing works. Damn bro, are you new to boxing? You might want to watch a few more fights and read articles etc...immerse yourself in boxing culture dude you'll learn alot trust me.
        Mayweather's last 3 fights have equalled or outdone even DLH's in PPV.

        Mayweather's a bigger draw than Pacman. Mayweather has now done possibly over 6 million buys in his last 3 fights. Do you even know how significant that is? I guess you wouldn't, you're a hater.


        You try to hard bro.

        Oscar>>Floyd all day. Its not even close.

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        • tesla_power
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          #74
          Originally posted by Dan...
          Thats all fine but just understand that you can twist this **** any way you like. I could, for instance, say that the Oscar that Floyd beat was 100 times better than the version Pacquiao crushed as Oscar was clearly dead at the weight against Manny. You could also say that Hatton had lost pretty much all of his punch resistence by the time Manny got to him and was just a sitting duck.

          Regardless of what anyone says, Mayweather was ultra ultra impressive the other night. That was still Marquez in there, and Floyd made him look ridiculous.
          I could agree by some of you points but that display of floyd is relative. He is a 4 to 1 favorite. That display is expected from him. I was impressed but not that much. One thing that was answered for me is that Floyd still knows his boxing and he knows how to take advantage of his physical advantages.

          Other than that, it is still not clear if his skills before he retired are still there. Being the cautious fighter that pbf is, he just went about exploiting jmms physical disadvantages. I was hoping he would go to war with jmm... return back to the 135 floyd ... he could take jmm's punches .. why not test his reflexes/instinct?

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          • Dan...
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            #75
            Originally posted by Jack Burton
            Funny how he never sold any ppv's when he was fighting opponents WITHOUT giant built in fanbases.

            And if you think that was JMM in there the other night you don't know boxing.
            I understand that he was far from his best but what I was getting at is its not like Floyd did that to some shot bum or low-skilled journeyman. He may have been blown up, but Marquez still has skills. Floyd's dominance was impressive. I guarantee no other WW dominates JMM like that.

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            • fdotorres
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              #76
              Originally posted by Dan...
              I understand that he was far from his best but what I was getting at is its not like Floyd did that to some shot bum or low-skilled journeyman. He may have been blown up, but Marquez still has skills. Floyd's dominance was impressive. I guarantee no other WW dominates JMM like that.
              cotto, mosley, margarito (with or without plaster) and williams would've knocked him out senseless

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              • Fulcrum29
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                #77
                Originally posted by fdotorres
                so margarito has more skills than cotto according to you?
                that fight is tainted by cheating.

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                • miron_lang
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                  You just proved my point exactly. It's all about how the fighter actually performs, resume plays 2nd fiddle to that though it still does play a role. But what's more important is not the who but the HOW.
                  For example Pacman beat JMM but he arguably lost so the who was ok but the HOW made Pacman look bad. Floyd fought JMM but owned him 120-107.
                  Actual performance means the FACTS not OPINIONS.

                  You think FLoyd is a MONSTER that will destroy the likes of Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and all other Welters. but the FACT is he never fought them.


                  He a Welterweight but he just beat a lightweight and that lightweight had 90% of his fights below lightweight . So thats not a very strong arguments for him being #1

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                  • Dan...
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by tesla_power
                    I could agree by some of you points but that display of floyd is relative. He is a 4 to 1 favorite. That display is expected from him. I was impressed but not that much. One thing that was answered for me is that Floyd still knows his boxing and he knows how to take advantage of his physical advantages.

                    Other than that, it is still not clear if his skills before he retired are still there. Being the cautious fighter that pbf is, he just went about exploiting jmms physical disadvantages. I was hoping he would go to war with jmm... return back to the 135 floyd ... he could take jmm's punches .. why not test his reflexes/instinct?
                    I don't wanna sound like I'm ****riding Floyd here, because I have criticised him plenty in the past.

                    I know he was expected to win, but I didn't expect him to win every single round by a landslide. That surprised and impressed me. Although, I do admit that even though I held reservations regarding Marquez's ability to carry the weight, he carried it even worse than I thought he would.

                    You seriously do not think it was evident that his skills are still there? I mean, the speed, the defensive abilities, the precise countering - it all looked pretty good to me. Again I accept Marquez was way above his proper fighting weight, but all Floyd's tools looked to be in order from where I was sitting.

                    As far as Floyd going to war with Marquez - it was never going to happen. Floyd isn't a risk-taker in the ring, at least not any more. He doesn't care about pleasing the critics or the crowd, he simply cares about getting the win. That's just the way it is with Mayweather.

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                    • joe_black
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                      #80
                      Here's something that I hope will make you guys think better...

                      ODLH that Mosley beat twice > ODLH that Mayweather decisioned > ODLH that Pacquiao annihilated


                      Mosley beat a prime ODLH and followed it up when they were both past their primes. Remember, the 2nd bout was before Mayweather and ODLH drama... i call it drama because it was all scripted! I mean, can't you see how the golden pretties avoided hurting each other throughout the 12 round contest????

                      To cut the long story short, Mosley is the best!

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