Pound for Pound is About SKILLS not OPPOSITION

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  • fdotorres
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    #81
    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
    that fight is tainted by cheating.
    is prescott more skilled than khan?

    is maidana more skilled that ortiz?

    is hatton more skilled than paulie?

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    • Glamour Puss
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      #82
      Originally posted by Dan...
      I understand that he was far from his best but what I was getting at is its not like Floyd did that to some shot bum or low-skilled journeyman. He may have been blown up, but Marquez still has skills. Floyd's dominance was impressive. I guarantee no other WW dominates JMM like that.
      JMM dominated himself by taking the fight, putting on the weight and losing all his speed and reflexes.

      He doesn't belong at WW period.

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      • Fulcrum29
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        #83
        Originally posted by joe_black
        Here's something that I hope will make you guys think better...

        ODLH that Mosley beat twice > ODLH that Mayweather decisioned > ODLH that Pacquiao annihilated


        Mosley beat a prime ODLH and followed it up when they were both past their primes. Remember, the 2nd bout was before Mayweather and ODLH drama... i call it drama because it was all scripted! I mean, can't you see how the golden pretties avoided hurting each other throughout the 12 round contest????

        To cut the long story short, Mosley is the best!
        Mosley used steroids, Mayweather/Pac didn't.

        To cut the long story short, Mosley's victories are tainted so he's not the best.

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        • Kanye West
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          #84
          "Pound-for-Pound" is a great piece of boxing jargon, and I'm happy for it, and I'ma let it finish ; but "fantasy fight" is the greatest piece of "unconfirmable bull**** boxing jargon" of all time!!!!

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          • Fulcrum29
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            #85
            Originally posted by fdotorres
            is prescott more skilled than khan?

            is maidana more skilled that ortiz?

            is hatton more skilled than paulie?
            Is Frazier more skilled than Ali?

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            • miron_lang
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              #86
              WHy doesnt ANYBODY point this out.

              Juan Manuel Marquez is a COLD BLOODED Counter Puncher. He is at BEST when facing someone that is aggressive and comes forward.




              I'll give Floyd some props for shutting him out though. #2 in the list is fair.

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              • Fulcrum29
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                #87
                Originally posted by Kanye West
                "Pound-for-Pound" is a great piece of boxing jargon, and I'm happy for it, and I'ma let it finish ; but "fantasy fight" is the greatest piece of "unconfirmable bull**** boxing jargon" of all time!!!!
                Nice alt. You should use the Mosley photoshopped face over Kanye.

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                • Sweet Pea 50
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                  #88
                  Guillermo Rigondeux: Top Ten P4P....

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                  • joe_black
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Dan...
                    I don't wanna sound like I'm ****riding Floyd here, because I have criticised him plenty in the past.

                    I know he was expected to win, but I didn't expect him to win every single round by a landslide. That surprised and impressed me. Although, I do admit that even though I held reservations regarding Marquez's ability to carry the weight, he carried it even worse than I thought he would.

                    You seriously do not think it was evident that his skills are still there? I mean, the speed, the defensive abilities, the precise countering - it all looked pretty good to me. Again I accept Marquez was way above his proper fighting weight, but all Floyd's tools looked to be in order from where I was sitting.

                    As far as Floyd going to war with Marquez - it was never going to happen. Floyd isn't a risk-taker in the ring, at least not any more. He doesn't care about pleasing the critics or the crowd, he simply cares about getting the win. That's just the way it is with Mayweather.
                    Mayweather was expected to win every round, especially when he weighed tons more than Marquez did during fight night. Marquez's lightweight punches couldn't hurt Mayweather's middleweight frame. Marquez isn't an offensive fighter to begin with. He doesn't have the tools of a good offensive fighter. He wasn't fighting his usual style. This is probably the main reason why he looked ****** against Mayweather who was faster, bigger, taller, and had a much longer reach.

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                    • Fulcrum29
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by joe_black
                      Mayweather was expected to win every round, especially when he weighed tons more than Marquez did during fight night. Marquez's lightweight punches couldn't hurt Mayweather's middleweight frame. Marquez isn't an offensive fighter to begin with. He doesn't have the tools of a good offensive fighter. He wasn't fighting his usual style. This is probably the main reason why he looked ****** against Mayweather who was faster, bigger, taller, and had a much longer reach.
                      Dude, what punches? Marquez landed only 12%, his weight had nothing to do with THAT fact - Floyd's defense did.

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