Pound for Pound is About SKILLS not OPPOSITION

[Fulcrum29]

I cant blame Falcrum, he just attracted to boring boxers, nothing more nothing less.

Fulcrums favorite boxers:
Heavy Weight - Wladimir Klitschko
Supposedly Welter Weight- Floyd Mayweather

Yea you're right I'm attracted to the P4P #1 fighter in the world, and the heavyweight that has won by knockout about 9 out of his last 10 fights. Yea pretty boring.
You are a ****** and a hater.

[Fulcrum29]

Floyd can't sell w/ out Oscar, Gatti, and Hatton.

JMM sold this last fight cuz' of his piss drinking antics.

Owned.

Please son. Three PPV in a row at over 1 million buys and it's all a fluke to pathetic haters like you huh?
Face it Floyd is now a bigger draw than all your idols. He is a bigger draw than Pacman: FACT. He has proven it with numbers. You have proven only your bias with hate.

[We want Floyd]

I'm getting tired of Pacman nuthuggers hating on Floyd's recent placement back atop the P4P rankings due to the fact that he fought a guy moving up.

The fact is, by the pure definition of the term POUND FOR POUND Floyd is #1, not Pacman. Pound for Pound has nothing to do with who you fight, or who is the best at your weight division. I found it so laughable when I heard a Cotto nuthugger say that Cotto should be P4P ahead of Mayweather because Cotto has proven himself at 147 and thus is the king of 147 and Mayweather is not. Um..what the hell does 147 have to do with p4p? Absolutely nothing.
Pound for pound means that given the same size/physical advantages, the fighter rated p4p higher will always win and beat someone ranked p4p lower than him.
With that said what the hell does fighting Marquez have to do with the fact that at equal weights Floyd would demolish Pacquaio and school him even worse than he schooled JMM?
Given these obvious assertions, it is clear that Floyd Mayweather is pound for pound #1 in the world right now as he was before his retirement.

Keep in mind that who you fight has SOME bearing on it but ONLY in the sense that it gives a measurement of what your boxing ability truly is. And in the end the P4P ranking is all about BOXING ABILITY not resumes.
HOW you win a fight is more important for P4P rankings than who you fight.
I.E. going life and death with JMM twice for Pac, and easily dominating him 120-107 for Mayweather. That's the P4P difference.

That's a great lil argument if PAC didn't happen to not only beat Floyd's former opponents, but PAC completely destroyed them and ended it viciously!!

Don't tell me that Floyd's dismantling of Juanita was far more impressive than the domination PAC showed in literally taking out Flattened in a far more dominating fashion than Floyd could muster.

De La Joto was the most competitive fight Floyd's been in and PAC shutdown and beat De La Joto to submission. Both times, PAC was the one moving up!!

[Dan...]

Floyd can't sell w/ out Oscar, Gatti, and Hatton.

JMM sold this last fight cuz' of his piss drinking antics.

Owned.

I love this.


So in 2 years you will probably be sitting here saying.

"Floyd's not a draw. He can't sell without Oscar, Gatti, Hatton, Marquez, Cotto, Pacquiao, Mosley..."

Seriously, the double standards on here in relation to Mayweather is just ridiculous. Hate the man, fine, but try to keep it within reason. THis **** is just ridiculous.

[Glamour Puss]

Please son. Three PPV in a row at over 1 million buys and it's all a fluke to pathetic haters like you huh?
Face it Floyd is now a bigger draw than all your idols. He is a bigger draw than Pacman: FACT. He has proven it with numbers. You have proven only your bias with hate.

Saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

And stop being such a little drama queen throwing the word "hate" around so much.

I don't care enough about Floyd to hate the douche.

I just think he's an overrated, cherrypicking, ***** w/ the worst tiny group of fans that ever polluted the face of the earth.

[Story]

I knew this thread would turn into an all out flame war, which is why I didn't post here in the first place but I'm bored now so w/e.

Like someone said earlier in this thread, the P4P rankings are Opinion based so lets relax.

If the majority thinks that Floyd isn't the P4P number one then Floyd's going to have to prove himself against guys who pose a threat to him. If his skills are great enough to help him beat all the top WWs then he's P4P #1 in my book no problem.

[zalez787]

Take your medication then come back and learn to stay on topic. And next time stop skipping your english as a second language classes.

Is that all u have to say. I mean is that really what u are going to answer back. ur ****ing ******ed. Floyd can be the most skilled boxer. He hasnt fought the best. So he can be ranked #1 by a magazine , but the fans know who the best are. By the way. I know 2 languages , and I know u understood me. Pendejo.

[fdotorres]

so if cotto beats floyd by any chance, then he won't move ahead of floyd in the p4p rankings because he's... less skilled?

[Fulcrum29]

That's a great lil argument if PAC didn't happen to not only beat Floyd's former opponents, but PAC completely destroyed them and ended it viciously!!

Don't tell me that Floyd's dismantling of Juanita was far more impressive with the domination PAC showed in literally taking out Flattened in a far more dominating than Floyd could muster and De La Joto was the most competitive fight Floyd's been in. Both times, PAC was the one moving up!!

Wrong. Arguably they are even but I believe Mayweather has the slight edge in common opponents.

1. Hatton: The edge goes to Pacquaio. Floyd had no trouble with him either and did KO him but Pacman wrecked him much faster and at a better weight.
2. DLH: Edge goes to Mayweather big time. DLH should not have been in the ring period when he fought Pacman. Every fan and industry expert agreed that it was a farce of a fight DLH was done and a complete total 100% zombie on fight night. Mayweather fought a hungry live version of DLH.
3. JMM: Floyd has the edge. Pacquiao went life and death with JMM twice. Most fans and sports writers saw JMM winning both fights. Floyd utterly dominated him 120-107 forcing JMM to career/record low punch connect/output.

[Dan...]

That's a great lil argument if PAC didn't happen to not only beat Floyd's former opponents, but PAC completely destroyed them and ended it viciously!!

Don't tell me that Floyd's dismantling of Juanita was far more impressive with the domination PAC showed in literally taking out Flattened in a far more dominating than Floyd could muster and De La Joto was the most competitive fight Floyd's been in. Both times, PAC was the one moving up!!

Thats all fine but just understand that you can twist this **** any way you like. I could, for instance, say that the Oscar that Floyd beat was 100 times better than the version Pacquiao crushed as Oscar was clearly dead at the weight against Manny. You could also say that Hatton had lost pretty much all of his punch resistence by the time Manny got to him and was just a sitting duck.

Regardless of what anyone says, Mayweather was ultra ultra impressive the other night. That was still Marquez in there, and Floyd made him look ridiculous.