Pound for Pound is About SKILLS not OPPOSITION

[joe_black]

Wrong.

There is no "could." Mosley cheated PERIOD. His physique is at least in part from steroids. No matter how long ago he stopped using steroids the physique he maintains to this day and the STRENGTH he has was aided by STEROIDS and he now still has it. So he's still a cheater to this day.

Floyd didn't cheat, the promoters and commentators all explained if you were listening (which apparently you weren't) that the fight was a 147 fight, there was no cheating involved. The penalty was merely incentive for Floyd to come in at 144 but he DIDN'T HAVE TO legally nor contractually.

You lose.

No "could"? LMFAO! read your post before that! You sound like an expert on steroids. So you are blindly accepting the ****** reasons given by the promoters and commentators? Come on! Didn't you listen to what Marquez had to say? LOL you lose!

[Unbiased]

actually P4P should be judged by a combination of skillset AND the level of opposition he's demonstrated that skillset on. In which case Floyd is #2 and Pac is rightfully #1. If you don't agree with me, I could care less because obviously this website and ring magazine seems to.

[JAB5239]

Obviously YOU don't know anything about steroids. It's only noticeable because when he's "off it" he's in off season i.e. not lifting anymore and resting. But Mosley is still fighting he's not retired so he still lifts weights and is maintaining the physique that steroids helped him obtain.

Lmao!! You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Once you are off the juice you lose most of everything you artificially gained whether you keep lifting or not. This is a fact. and Mosley wasn't on steroids long enough to give him huge advantages anyway. Some advantages, yes. But once he was off them, good bye to everything they give him for that one fight.

I'll tell you what.....why don't you post a pic of Shane during the first Oscar fight and one of him during the second fight. I'll bet there isn't much difference if any in his physique.

[MaD RoBoT]

You just proved my point exactly. It's all about how the fighter actually performs, resume plays 2nd fiddle to that though it still does play a role. But what's more important is not the who but the HOW.
For example Pacman beat JMM but he arguably lost so the who was ok but the HOW made Pacman look bad. Floyd fought JMM but owned him 120-107.

how about this:

Pac beat the hell out of DLH & Hatton better than Floyd

hows that sound?

don't you realize how bad Floyd looks after that?

[Mersey]

you are jealous hater.

PACQUIAO is always fighting best and he beat them all.

PACQUIAO is number 1 P4P fighter for reason!

What am I jealous of?

Why am I a hater?

Who has a pic in there avi of Floyd dressed as a woman?

You're the definition of a hater.

[JAB5239]

Lmao!! You really aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you? Once you are off the juice you lose most of everything you artificially gained whether you keep lifting or not. This is a fact. and Mosley wasn't on steroids long enough to give him huge advantages anyway. Some advantages, yes. But once he was off them, good bye to everything they give him for that one fight.

I'll tell you what.....why don't you post a pic of Shane during the first Oscar fight and one of him during the second fight. I'll bet there isn't much difference if any in his physique.

Fulcrum....while you're off talking about shane in another thread Im still waiting for you to post picture from the first and second Hoya fights so we can see the huge difference in Shane's physique. You could at least do that. Seeing as this is your thread the burden of proof should lye on you.

[nelsoncm]

is paulie less skilled than cotto?

In Fulcrum's logic, no. In fact, Cotto pales in comparison. Paulie is a poor man's Floyd and thus deserves a top 5 ranking.

[MANGLER]

P4P is about skills and accomplishments. Why do the ratings not stay the same all the time? Cuz guys prove themselves by accomplishin ****, that's why. This is ******.

[fdotorres]

In Fulcrum's logic, no. In fact, Cotto pales in comparison. Paulie is a poor man's Floyd and thus deserves a top 5 ranking.

quite the contrary

he says that winning a fight automatically makes you more skilled than the opponent, so if cotto beats floyd then he's more skilled than him

maidana is more skilled than victor ortiz since he stopped him

prescott is more skilled than khan

hatton is more skilled than paulie

[JAB5239]

Fulcrum....while you're off talking about shane in another thread Im still waiting for you to post picture from the first and second Hoya fights so we can see the huge difference in Shane's physique. You could at least do that. Seeing as this is your thread the burden of proof should lye on you.

I knew Fulcrum would sign off before he man upped.