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  • A.B Counterhooks
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    #71
    Originally posted by Leicesterage

    Ruiz has NO reach advantage against Deontay Wilder.

    Don't matter how much "pop" he has if he can't reach the man. And he wouldn't. He's immobile to boot, a counter puncher. Can't counter if you can't reach him.
    No reach advantage but ruiz knows to work his way in pocket using head movement and faints ,also keep in mind wilder barely uses his jab to create distance,he's just looking to land one big right hand ,wilder has been working on speed though which makes him even more dangerous I mean im aware andy will be sitting on top TNT barrell all night but his chin is underrated we dont know yet how well he can assimilate deontay punch and if he does oh boy..wilders in trouble, andy aint helenius.

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      #72
      Originally posted by HeyDeebo!

      No reach advantage but ruiz knows to work his way in pocket using head movement and faints ,also keep in mind wilder barely uses his jab to create distance,he's just looking to land one big right hand ,wilder has been working on speed though which makes him even more dangerous I mean im aware andy will be sitting on top TNT barrell all night but his chin is underrated we dont know yet how well he can assimilate deontay punch and if he does oh boy..wilders in trouble, andy aint helenius.
      Wilder/Fury 3.

      Wilder repeatedly throws jabs to the body to trick Fury to get inside, then lands a bomb that drops Fury.

      Ruiz does NOT get up from such a shot.

      And remember; he couldn't get inside on Joshua in the second fight either.

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        #73
        Originally posted by wrecksracer

        You don't get credit for wins against people you didn't fight lol. Those top guys I mentioned? He didn't fight them. He doesn't get credit for beating them
        You don’t have the ability to SEE. That is not my problem. Stick with comparisons, ideas and other peoples predictions. That’s safest for you.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Leicesterage

          Wilder/Fury 3.

          Wilder repeatedly throws jabs to the body to trick Fury to get inside, then lands a bomb that drops Fury.

          Ruiz does NOT get up from such a shot.

          And remember; he couldn't get inside on Joshua in the second fight either.
          Yeap then Fury got up boxed and Ko'ed wilder out cold , whats makes you think ruiz wouldn't get up..I mean he has been dropped before yes but has no KO losses ,not saying ruiz will definitely get the Win but he does have shot.

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            #75
            Originally posted by OldTerry

            I would agree as I don't believe either Joshua or Usyk want to fight Wilder. I'd prefer Joshua to Ruiz, but we have to keep in real.
            I agree with your take, Usyk will probably try to unify against Fury and AJ needs to rebuild a bit before tackling the likes of Wilder.

            I also think PBC is perfectly content to make an in-house PPV between these two. The writing is on the wall for Ruiz, don't think he's got any more upward trajectory on his career, he's been fattened up for the slaughter by Wilder.

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              #76
              Andy has the hand speed and counterpunching ability to stop Wilder- if he can make his way around Wilder's jab that I hope he'll be using. People forget how limited Wilder is in close quarters and I believe Andy can clip him.

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                #77
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                You don’t have the ability to SEE. That is not my problem. Stick with comparisons, ideas and other peoples predictions. That’s safest for you.
                Imaginary wins don't count. The only top guy Wilder fought, he lost to. It's a fact. You stick with your imaginary scenarios, it's safest for you.

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                  #78
                  PBC has not learned in the slightest. You can't rely on power and a KO for your marquee fighters, because sometimes it won't happen. If this goes to a decision, and Andy avoids the right hand, and comes in at a respectable weight by putting down the fork and stop eating gorditas, he might actually win.

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                  • Legends456
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                    #79
                    Ruiz has a beefy skull, it’s going to be hard to kill him.

                    seriously, though, Ortiz shouldn’t talk like that since things like that actually happen. He’s just a salty old head since he never got his belt. For the record, I sincerely hope Wilder goes his entire career and never catches the body he always prattles on about.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Greenfield02
                      That's what they said about Ruiz when he fought A.J, would I favor Wilder to win, most likely, but there is a way to beat Wilder and it's up to Ruiz to institute the game plan. IMO what Ruiz has to do is stay on the inside and fight on the inside, just lean into Wilder all night because Wilder does not know how to fight on the inside, he needs Range. So if I was Andy's trainer I would just say keep your head low, get inside and go to the body and go to work, he does that, he wins, if he decides to stay on the outside, he gets K.OD. it's really that simple in my opinion, and by the way, another reason I think Andy might be in it, is his height. It's harder for a taller guy to fight a shorter guy because you have to punch down. On the other hand, the shorter guy punches up giving him more of an opportunity to land, especially on Wilder who constantly leaves his head and chin up.
                      Bruh, Andy is getting knocked unconscious. I think he will box well against Wilder while it lasts, but he is 100% getting stretched. He is tailor made for Wilder with that 74 inch reach to Wilders 83 inch reach. Not to mention that Wilder is the quicker of the two. Wider by KO 5.

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