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  • TheVoiceOfReason
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    #61
    To beat Wilder you have to be able to get up off the canvas after Wilder lands a solid right. No one has ever fought a perfect fight against Wilder, although Fury's second fight with him was pretty close to perfection. In the other two fights Fury had to rise from the dead to make it to the finish line. He's the only one who has been able to get up off the canvas and finish the fight. I agree with Ortiz. Ruiz has a good chin, as he showed in the first fight with Fury, but I don't hink he'd be able to go on after taking a solid right from Wilder. Usyk has a small chance of winning, but only if he can evade 100% of the right hands that will come his way over 12 rounds. A couple of times Joshua rocked Usyk, and Joshua doesn't hit as hard as Wilder.

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    • wrecksracer
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      #62
      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

      None of the guys you mention have the foot work or hustle to avoid his right hand. I view it different than you. Usyk has a chance if he can have a perfect fight. Also, Otto Wallin could beat him too IF he boxed smart and didn’t exchange.
      That could very well be true, but he doesn't get credit for beating guys unless he actually fights them. That's the whole problem here. Could he have beaten Vlad? If he fought him maybe. He was the mandatory challenger. It was a winnable fight. Whyte was his mandatory in a winnable fight. Fight didn't happen. I've long said I could be a Wilder fan is he beats some top guys. He doesn't get credit for work he hasn't put in

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      • MONGOOSE66
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        #63
        Originally posted by wrecksracer

        That could very well be true, but he doesn't get credit for beating guys unless he actually fights them. That's the whole problem here. Could he have beaten Vlad? If he fought him maybe. He was the mandatory challenger. It was a winnable fight. Whyte was his mandatory in a winnable fight. Fight didn't happen. I've long said I could be a Wilder fan is he beats some top guys. He doesn't get credit for work he hasn't put in
        Vlad was already old so forget him and White’s foot work is too slow. Easy win.
        Think about it this way. Wilder gave Fury a handful. I base Wilders abilities during the Fury fight. In my opinion he’s top 3 in the division.

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        • Combat Talk Radio
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          #64
          Originally posted by HeyDeebo!
          Some people are sleeping on ruiz man just cuz he fat boy Lol, andy has better boxing skills than wilder and enough pop to keep big boys at bay, wilder power is preposterous true but thats about it. Its too bad helenius didn't last too much to see wilder being put in some kind of predicament but we'll what happens next.
          Ruiz has NO reach advantage against Deontay Wilder.

          Don't matter how much "pop" he has if he can't reach the man. And he wouldn't. He's immobile to boot, a counter puncher. Can't counter if you can't reach him.

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            #65
            Originally posted by denium
            Ruiz might have a bit of success but Wilder catches him and leaves him twitching on the floor.
            Just like this

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            • Willy Wanker
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              #66
              I think Wilder vs. Ruiz would be like the Wilder vs Ortiz fights.

              I can see Ruiz outboxing and outworking Wilder, maybe even hurting him a few times until Wilder lands that right hand, then it's over. It would look King Hippo getting knocked on his ass in Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

              Ruiz has a very good chin, but he gets his way too much. A good punch from Wilder isn't just good enough to change the fight, it's good enough to end the fight in an instant.

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              • wrecksracer
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                #67
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                Vlad was already old so forget him and White’s foot work is too slow. Easy win.
                Think about it this way. Wilder gave Fury a handful. I base Wilders abilities during the Fury fight. In my opinion he’s top 3 in the division.
                You don't get credit for wins against people you didn't fight lol. Those top guys I mentioned? He didn't fight them. He doesn't get credit for beating them

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                • Damn Wicked
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                  #68
                  Ruiz would be a quantum leap above Helenius, that is for sure. Even though Ruiz is a fairly stationary target, he's not a pushover like Helenius has proven to be multiple times.

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                  • Boxing Logic
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                    #69
                    No wonder Wilder wants to fight Ruiz then.
                    Last edited by Boxing Logic; 10-18-2022, 06:18 PM.

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                    • b Murphington
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by juanpablo
                      Andy's defense is leaky as hell and Wilder is one of the scariest one-punch KO artists I've ever seen. Wilder wins by KO inside 6 rounds for the simple fact that Andy cannot do what Fury did, physically he just can't.
                      This right here makes the most sense.

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