Was Hamed the original Broner?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #11
    Originally posted by War Room
    How can we ever know when he fought lower level opposition?​
    He cleaned out Featherweight. Had all the belts there. Wasn't a strong division at the time but he still cleaned it out.

    Broner never has. He's barely beat a top fighter in general I think he's only beaten one guy in the Top 5 and that was Demarco.

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    • KillaMane26
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      #12
      No Hamed was a beast and picked up some great wins better than anything Broner did. .plus he lost to ATG ( weight class)

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      • El_Mero
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        #13
        Originally posted by War Room

        There was a lot of hype around early Broner. I was probably the first one to see him on an undercard on one of those ESPN Tuesday Night Fight deals. I thought he was really good in the beginning.



        How can we ever know when he fought lower level opposition?​



        Competitive decision? If it wasn't for the turnbuckle head smash it would have been 8-4. Thats domination and Hamed probably got a round or so in there he didn't deserve based on his name.



        Based on what exactly?



        That when he fought someone actually great, he folded 8-4. He fought a bunch of bummers and past-its when there were much bigger fish to fry. Debate if you like, but he avoided Morales like the plague and others like Gainer, JMM, Morales, McKinney, Jones, and Tapia were all around at that time. Instead he fought B levels instead.



        Then refute the ticked boxes instead of just a vague claim.



        Name Hameds 5 best wins please.
        Only need to name 3....Kelley, Vasquez, McCullogh.
        Broner aint sh.it

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        • War Room
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          #14
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          He cleaned out Featherweight. Had all the belts there. Wasn't a strong division at the time but he still cleaned it out.

          Broner never has. He's barely beat a top fighter in general I think he's only beaten one guy in the Top 5 and that was Demarco.
          Like you said, dead division or in other words a career of lesser opoonents.

          Never fought Gainer or JMM at FW. Once Morales got to FW, crickets.

          Everything I said here is true and still uncontested.

          Copycat of another fighter​
          ​​A career of lesser opponents ​​
          Big mouths ​​​​
          Got exposed ​​​​
          Trouble with the law ​​​​
          Never could come back after being exposed​​

          Originally posted by El_Mero

          Only need to name 3....Kelley, Vasquez, McCullogh.
          Broner aint sh.it
          You can't do 5 that's why. But I'm a sport so I'll take 3, muchas gracias mi amigo.

          Rocket was a bummer, Vazquez literally at the end of his career, and Kelley's best days were far faaar behind him. Am I wrong?

          Originally posted by KillaMane26
          No Hamed was a beast and picked up some great wins better than anything Broner did. .plus he lost to ATG ( weight class)
          A beast against bummers! What great wins?? You were like in elementary school when he was fighting.

          ATG weight class? He was at that weight for 7 years, huh?

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #15
            Originally posted by War Room
            Like you said, dead division or in other words a career of lesser opoonents.

            Never fought Gainer or JMM at FW. Once Morales got to FW, crickets.

            Everything I said here is true and still uncontested.

            Copycat of another fighter​
            ​​A career of lesser opponents ​​
            Big mouths ​​​​
            Got exposed ​​​​
            Trouble with the law ​​​​
            Never could come back after being exposed​​



            You can't do 5 that's why. But I'm a sport so I'll take 3, muchas gracias mi amigo.

            Rocket was a bummer, Vazquez literally at the end of his career, and Kelley's best days were far faaar behind him. Am I wrong?



            A beast against bummers! What great wins?? You were like in elementary school when he was fighting.

            ATG weight class? He was at that weight for 7 years, huh?
            Don't disagree mate. I never rated Hamed all that highly.

            But he is a lot better than Broner. I put Broner more on the level of a Andre Berto or someone like that.

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              The difference is, Berto came up fighting guys smaller than him and got found out when he finally had to fight people his size. Naz was mostly fighting guys the same size or bigger, fought and beat every champ at featherweight and had plenty of title defenses. Broner was never really dominant in any division but had massive hype.

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              • dan_cov
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                #17
                Hamed while overrated was a much better fighter and beat much better opposition & while maybe not a popular opinion I thought Broner was gifted decisions vs Ponce De Leon and Paulie. Pretty sure he had another debatable decision early in his career too vs a journeyman.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Hamed while overrated was a much better fighter and beat much better opposition & while maybe not a popular opinion I thought Broner was gifted decisions vs Ponce De Leon and Paulie. Pretty sure he had another debatable decision early in his career too vs a journeyman.
                  You're talking about Quintero. He definitely lost that fight.

                  Your opinions on the other two are hardly unpopular I would say, I thought he lost to Ponce De Leon. Most people thought it was a robbery, I felt it was close.

                  Pauli I think I had a draw, definitely either way.

                  That fight with Pauli was the final straw for me, was clear as day that Broner was average, at best.

                  I couldn't believe he was such a heavy favourite against Maidana after that performance.

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                  • KillaMane26
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by War Room
                    Like you said, dead division or in other words a career of lesser opoonents.

                    Never fought Gainer or JMM at FW. Once Morales got to FW, crickets.

                    Everything I said here is true and still uncontested.

                    Copycat of another fighter​
                    ​​A career of lesser opponents ​​
                    Big mouths ​​​​
                    Got exposed ​​​​
                    Trouble with the law ​​​​
                    Never could come back after being exposed​​



                    You can't do 5 that's why. But I'm a sport so I'll take 3, muchas gracias mi amigo.

                    Rocket was a bummer, Vazquez literally at the end of his career, and Kelley's best days were far faaar behind him. Am I wrong?



                    A beast against bummers! What great wins?? You were like in elementary school when he was fighting.

                    ATG weight class? He was at that weight for 7 years, huh?
                    What? That's what videos and YouTube for dumb dumb. He had better wins than Broner and was knocking out dudes in his division . Kevin Kelly better a win then anything on Broner record..


                    If you gat a problem with me, quit responding to me, I'm getting a sideways feeling from ya responses.... Either we gon stay on topic or not .. btch

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                    • El Más Loco
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                      #20
                      Hamed never beat anyone real. Anyone calling him a legend is delusional.

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