Was Hamed the original Broner?

[MONGOOSE66]

There was a lot of hype around early Broner. I was probably the first one to see him on an undercard on one of those ESPN Tuesday Night Fight deals. I thought he was really good in the beginning.



How can we ever know when he fought lower level opposition?



Competitive decision? If it wasn't for the turnbuckle head smash it would have been 8-4. Thats domination and Hamed probably got a round or so in there he didn't deserve based on his name.



Based on what exactly?



That when he fought someone actually great, he folded 8-4. He fought a bunch of bummers and past-its when there were much bigger fish to fry. Debate if you like, but he avoided Morales like the plague and others like Gainer, JMM, Morales, McKinney, Jones, and Tapia were all around at that time. Instead he fought B levels instead.



Then refute the ticked boxes instead of just a vague claim.



Name Hameds 5 best wins please.

Arguing over your priorities is a waste of my time. U view boxing in a very different way than I.

[War Room]

What? That's what videos and YouTube for dumb dumb. He had better wins than Broner and was knocking out dudes in his division . Kevin Kelly better a win then anything on Broner record..

Regarding me besting you with: ATG weight class? He was at that weight for 7 years at least clinch your ******** when penetrated.

Back to the task at hand then, Kevin Kelley was a shell of his former self. But how would you know, you were playing with Power Rangers dear boy.

Lest you forget because you're high right now

Everything I said here is true and still uncontested.
Copycat of another fighter
A career of lesser opponents
Big mouths
Got exposed
Trouble with the law
Never could come back after being exposed

If you gat a problem with me, quit responding to me, I'm getting a sideways feeling from ya responses.... Either we gon stay on topic or not .. btch

Pill popping junk box calling me a bitch? How fitting.
If you got a problem with my responses, stay out of my threads perhaps?

You're the one who can't stay on topic. Am I wrong?

The difference is, Berto came up fighting guys smaller than him and got found out when he finally had to fight people his size. Naz was mostly fighting guys the same size or bigger, fought and beat every champ at featherweight and had plenty of title defenses. Broner was never really dominant in any division but had massive hype.

Regarding the OP, Hamed was the original Broner.
Copycat of another fighter
A career of lesser opponents
Big mouths
Got exposed
Trouble with the law
Never could come back after being exposed

Can you prove any of those checks wrong?

[elfag]

I think Hamed performed better than broner. He retired too young though. IDK Why retired before 30 i think?

[elfag]

Hamed while overrated was a much better fighter and beat much better opposition & while maybe not a popular opinion I thought Broner was gifted decisions vs Ponce De Leon and Paulie. Pretty sure he had another debatable decision early in his career too vs a journeyman.

yeah hamed had speed and power and was beating men the same size or larger. Broner really only had size and a big weight cut going for him. hamed is the better fighter. head to head the same size he would wreck broner

[Oracle01]

Hamed actually has a strong resume. He beat many champions and usually dominated them. Tom Johnson was a long time champion when Hamed clowned him, he wasn't some paper champ like we have today.

[sunny31]

Naz career is more comparable to Mike Tyson that Adrian Broner. He was an athletic phenom who won titles at extremely young age and peaked early. Devastating knockout power in either hand, they both earned a shed load of money and changed the landscape of boxing commercially. Tyson did it to a larger scale, but Hamed put the lower divisions on the map, they did not make big money before him.

gluttony got the better of both of them, and a lack of discipline as they got older and gained fame and fortune.

They were both the best of what were relatively average divisions, but they both went on a tear through those divisions.

I think the problem with Naz career is that he beat mostly C level guys with a few B level guys, and then the competition jumped up to A+, you didn't have any good world champions at sort of a B+ /A- level apart from maybe Johnny Tapia who he would have been favorite to beat. After that you have Marquez, Barrera, Morales who are 3 of the greatest Mexican fighters ever.

Anyway Naz would be on many peoples top 20 list of best FW of all time, in what is a historically stacked division.

Broner would not be on any list

Quite a few of the guys Naseem beat went on to win titles after Hamed beat them.

None of guys Broner beat went on to accomplish anything.

Careers not remotely comparable.

[Oracle01]

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I think the problem with Naz career is that he beat mostly C level guys with a few B level guys,

Most of them were B+ actually.

Record in Major Title Fights:

16-1, 14 KO (including lineal title fights)

Titles:
WBO Featherweight (1995-2000, 15 Defenses); IBF Featherweight (1997, 2 Defenses); Lineal World Featherweight (1998-2001, 5 Defenses); WBC Featherweight (1999)

Current/Former Lineal World Champions Defeated:
1 (Wilfredo Vazquez TKO7)

Current/Former Lineal World Champions Faced in Defeat:
1 (Marco Antonio Barrera L12)

Current/Former Alphabet Titlists Defeated:
9 (Juan Polo Perez KO2; Steve Robinson TKO8; Manuel Medina RTD11; Tom Johnson TKO8; Kevin Kelley KO4; Wayne McCullough UD12; Paul Ingle TKO11; Cesar Soto UD12; Vuyani Bungu TKO4)

[KillaMane26]

Regarding me besting you with: ATG weight class? He was at that weight for 7 years at least clinch your ******** when penetrated.

Back to the task at hand then, Kevin Kelley was a shell of his former self. But how would you know, you were playing with Power Rangers dear boy.

Lest you forget because you're high right now

Everything I said here is true and still uncontested.
Copycat of another fighter
A career of lesser opponents
Big mouths
Got exposed
Trouble with the law
Never could come back after being exposed


Pill popping junk box calling me a bitch? How fitting.
If you got a problem with my responses, stay out of my threads perhaps?

You're the one who can't stay on topic. Am I wrong?



Regarding the OP, Hamed was the original Broner.
Copycat of another fighter
A career of lesser opponents
Big mouths
Got exposed
Trouble with the law
Never could come back after being exposed

Can you prove any of those checks wrong?

Yo you funny lmao. I can't even be mad you.

[Clegg]

Weak thread. So they are the same because they are the copycat of another fighter? How?

Hamed was trained in the Ingle style. He has a style that matches the gym he spent 20 years in, but with more emphasis on power. Who is he a copycat of?

Broner wanted to be like Floyd in being a huge star, but so does everyone, and he wasn't similar to him in fighting style. Not sure how either Hamed or Broner can be called copycats.

Hamed beat every champion in one division by KO, then lost, had one comeback win and retired. Broner skipped through 5 weight divisions because he kept eating twinkies, with multiple controversial decision wins along the way, then he lost, then was used as an opponent by the rest of the division for years, racking up more and more losses. How are those 2 careers similar?

[hugh grant]

I really rated hamed, during the hype. The tail end of hameds career was a little disappointing though.