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  • TheOneAboveAll
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    #121
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

    You didn't answer when i asked for the rest of Canelo's wins that have credibility? Is Canelo's resume so grotesquely overrated that you can't come up with credible wins?
    Every single one of Canelo's wins has credibility apart from the first two GGG wins. He's fought more world champions than any other active fighter in the game. If you apply your silly "saboteur" reasoning to any other fighter you will find a way to discredit them too. There is no perfect sequence of fights where Canelo could have satisfied a stubborn hater such as yourself. He was always going to fight one fighter at some wrong time so you you'll never run out of bs "evidence" to prove your case against him.

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      #122
      Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

      So one bad night against Ryder and Callum Smith was a bum? How has Smith looked since the Canelo fight? It's much easier to criticize than give credit. Canelo's victory over Smith was very impressive and worthy of respect. Anyone who follows this sport seriously will acknowledge that.
      Look at who Smith is fighting after the Canelo fight, and you'll have the answer to why he's looking better.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #123
        Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey

        Neither has GGG, neither has Mayweather, neither has Ward, neither has Pacquiao. What's your point?
        Golovkin beat Jacobs, Canelo x2, Murray, Geale, Lemieux and Macklin legitimately.

        Pacquiao beat Cotto, Barrera x2, Marquez x2, Thurman, Bradley x3, Clottey, Hatton, Diaz, Morales, Larios, Sasakul and Lebwaba legitimately.

        Mayweather beat Maidana x2, Oscar, Castillo x2, Chavez and Hernandez legitimately.

        Ward is the one who stands out badly as he only beat Froch legitimately. However, that one win against an ATG is better than the 2 good wins Canelo has.

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #124
          Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

          Every single one of Canelo's wins has credibility apart from the first two GGG wins. He's fought more world champions than any other active fighter in the game. If you apply your silly "saboteur" reasoning to any other fighter you will find a way to discredit them too. There is no perfect sequence of fights where Canelo could have satisfied a stubborn hater such as yourself. He was always going to fight one fighter at some wrong time so you you'll never run out of bs "evidence" to prove your case against him.
          So you can't answer in a direct manner by listing the names of these supposed wins, you have to do so with a strawman argument? That's as i thought. He doesn't have any credible wins. Why do you think you're too afraid to list them?

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #125
            Originally posted by Rebelrbg

            Look at who Smith is fighting after the Canelo fight, and you'll have the answer to why he's looking better.
            Smith is looking better as he now doesn't have to boil down to SM. And his opponents don't look to sabotage him by only giving him 3 weeks to prepare. Oh, and throw in the fact he isn't in a pandemic environment so he can spar properly unlike when he fought Canelo at short notice when Canelo had been in camp preparing for him for months. Canelo planned it all to gain advantage. He just needed to convince Smith that there were other opponents he might take on so he couldn't settle into camp.

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            • TheOneAboveAll
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              #126
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              So you can't answer in a direct manner by listing the names of these supposed wins, you have to do so with a strawman argument? That's as i thought. He doesn't have any credible wins. Why do you think you're too afraid to list them?
              You're slow and you don't know what a strawman argument is. I said every single one of his wins is credible except the first win and draw over GGG.

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                #127
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                Smith is looking better as he now doesn't have to boil down to SM. And his opponents don't look to sabotage him by only giving him 3 weeks to prepare. Oh, and throw in the fact he isn't in a pandemic environment so he can spar properly unlike when he fought Canelo at short notice when Canelo had been in camp preparing for him for months. Canelo planned it all to gain advantage. He just needed to convince Smith that there were other opponents he might take on so he couldn't settle into camp.
                You are the lamest of all the lame people on this site. I have decreed this.

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                • Sid-Knee
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

                  You're slow and you don't know what a strawman argument is. I said every single one of his wins is credible except the first win and draw over GGG.
                  And still no list of these supposed credible wins. You're doing great in your defence for Canelo. No, seriously.

                  Every win isn't credible world class wins. What planet are you on?

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

                    You are the lamest of all the lame people on this site. I have decreed this.
                    Why, what did i say that wasn't true or reasonable? Be specific?

                    Lame is when you don't have an argument so go for the ad hominem fallacies instead.

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                    • harry-greb
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Silence

                      He was drained and overtrained in the fight.

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                      Didn't look drained in the least. Never blew up in between fights and always made weight easy enough. Consumate professional. Just beaten by the better fighter

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