Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: Canelo 'Doesn't Have Lot Of Prime Names On His Resume'

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  • jackblack008
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    #101
    When two elites go toe to toe, you usually dont see huge KOs.

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    • jackblack008
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      #102
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee

      So Canelo didn't intentionally give Callum 3 weeks to prepare and duck him before the Ryder fight? He didn't duck Saunders for years because "He has a boring style" but then wanted to fight him after looking like shlt against Coceres? Again, before that fight, Canelo had zero intention of fighting him. He didn't fight Khan who is a Welter when there perfectly good middleweights to fight? He didn't fight a Lightweight in Lopez? he didn't want to fight Ortiz who was also a Welter?

      Canelo didn't duck Golovkin for years with him waiting to age him and drop the WBC title after saying "Mexicans don't f3ck around"? He then didn't lose both fights and get gifts? He didn't get a gift against Lara? He didn't fight Kovalev with the conditions that he fight only weeks after his last one without resting his body properly? Canelo didn't drain him with a rehydration contract? Canelo didn't do the same to Fielding who isn't even close to being world level? He didn't fight Yildrim who had been out of the ring for 2 years? He didn't drain a shot Chavez Jr? He didn't fight a shot Angulo coming straight from a stoppage loss? He didn't fight a shot Kirkland who had been out of the ring for 17 months? Canelo didn't fight a non-world class Matthew Hatton from Welterweight for the Lightmiddleweight title? Hatton wasn't even in line for a title shot at Welter. But he all of a sudden got a ranking a weight class upwards?

      Canelo didn't fight with Liam Smith when he had actual known fighters from the US that he needed to sell on American PPV? A smith who had never been near world class?

      I could be here all day with this. If you believe anything different to reality, then you're biased and want to protect the fraud. Canelo is a cancer to boxing.

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      • ShoulderRoll
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        #103
        Didn't Andre Ward retire rather young, rather than have to fight Bivol and Beterbiev?

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        • Silence
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          #104
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee

          Gonzales
          Usyk
          AJ
          Fury
          Taylor
          Golovkin
          Lomachenko
          Bivol
          Lara

          All these have better resumes than Canelo. I don't include robberies as part of any fighters resume. I don't include shot to pieces fighters or much smaller either.
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          -delete ur account

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #105
            Originally posted by HeyDeebo!

            Last time I check canelo was 3-1-1 against those 3 from your list all world class and besides the other 2 u mentioned you can add trout and callum smith for example,both undefeated champions at time gingerhead beat em. Both legitimate wins in my book.
            I don't care about the corruption with Canelo. I only care about the reality and facts of what happened. He lost the first two fights with Golovkin and to Lara.

            Callum wasn't given enough time to be prepared. I'm not giving credit for another opponent being sabotages so Canelo can take advantage. Only cowards to that. I want fair fights. If i don't get them in the way proper fighters go about their business, i'm not giving credit.

            Trout wasn't world class. Having a title doesn't automatically make you so. He was decent fringe level and no more. He beat no one other than a smaller and finished Cotto. Anyone his own size and fresh beat him. He doesn't even have a victory over a decent fighter who was fresh. It's a finished and smaller Cotto and bums. The rest are all losses.

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            • Sid-Knee
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              #106
              Originally posted by garfios

              With all do respect, there's only one fighter in his resume that jumps at you, a little bit, ryder, and he struggled with him. He's not an elite fighter.
              Groves doesn't jump out at you even more?

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              • Sid-Knee
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                #107
                Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

                The entirety of this post is you looking for some angle that fits your narrative that Canelo is an average or possibly below average fighter who slyly worked the system for 15 years. This guy is the puppet master, Keep going. Tell us how he worked his magic to win all the rest of his fights.
                So you're dis*****g the consistent facts i've detailed here? This isn't a narrative, it's fact and reality. The one who wants a narrative due to being a fanatic here is you. Canelo is a good world class fighter. But he's nothing more than that unless he proves it the correct way. Then i'll give him his credit like a do with any fighter. I'm sorry the facts hurt you.

                The rest of his fights are shot and smaller fighters. It stands to reason that they're no good. Why, outside of who i mentioned, who was a win of merit?

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                • Sid-Knee
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by jackblack008

                  Why don't you be specific and tell me what isn't true? Your short reply with nothing of value tells me that you can't dispute the facts. If you can, i'm here to debate it if you think you have an argument against. But you don't. That's very clear by your reply.

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                  • Sid-Knee
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Silence
                    List the actual world class wins where there was no robbery or sabotaging opponents by Canelo?

                    I have it as Jacobs and Saunders. That's it. But you think there are more? Tell me who they are?

                    Those fighters have actual wins that have credibility. And a lot more of them than Canelo has.

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                    • El_Maldito_Rey
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                      #110
                      The same morons crying about Canelo not fighting Benavidez or Charlo are the same morons ok with Andrea retiring rather than fighting Bivol and Beterbiev.

                      The same morons crying about Canelo fighting Euro belt holders like Saunders and Smith were ok with Andrea fighting Froch and Kessler

                      The same morons crying that the Canelo/GGG fights were marred with controversy were ok with the Andrea/Kovelev 1 decision and ok with the Kovalev 2 nut shots win.

                      The same morons crying about Canelo fighting Kovelev when he did were ok with Andrea fighting a shot weight drained Chad Dawson.

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