Comments Thread For: DAZN: Canelo-Golovkin III Generated 1.06 Million 'Worldwide' Buys

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  • Toffee
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    #61
    Originally posted by DClefthook

    And this is what seems to be confusing people. When you paid 65 million to just two of the fighters on the card then the fight would have to do HBO PPV #s like fights 1 and 2 in order to be considered a success. You guys are also fooling yourselves by believing it sold 550k PPVs at $85.99 but that price was for non subs. I guarantee you that 95% of the 550k buys were subscribers who paid $64.99. So, due to the amount of the purses this fight is a colossal flop. But they already fooled those imbeciles in 2018 with the old bait and switch about "PPV is dead" so why not tryto fool them again by telling them it sold 1.2 million and they profited 100 million billion trillion! Morons!
    They still got the subscription money though. That didn't disappear.

    And they also got some of it last month and will retain some of the new subs next month. And maybe for many more months.

    These services will be very interested in the one off event bottom line, but they will be more interested in measuring growth in their subscriber base and retention percentages.

    That's how digital product providers work. More subscribers, better retention = business valued higher. Profit and Loss is separate to Capital Growth, but both are real dollars.

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    • DClefthook
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      #62
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy

      The second PPV of Canelo and Golovkin was limited to cable providers, through HBO, on FITE TV and on RING TV. Collectively, it did 1.1 PPV buys. That's collectively through the networks.

      Now it did more than 1 million PPV buys. It's only slightly less than how it did before. How can you say that it flopped? Where? How? Why?

      This **** is just ridiculous how you guys are experiencing this level of denial .
      Look here Mr. Markowski I don't have all night to go back and forth with you so let me ask you a question...are you referring to Dazn global or Dazn US? I'm saying Dazn US will be done this year. If you are refering to Dazn global then maybe they are fine I don't know and don't care. But here in the US....it's a wrap!

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      • DClefthook
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        #63
        Originally posted by kafkod

        Here's what you need to get your head round - DAZN don't make money from the US buy rate only, it's the worldwide buy rate that determines whether they lose money or make money from a fight.

        Worldwide, Canelo/GGG 3 sold many more PPVs than Canelo/Plant. That's the comparison you should be making.
        Here's what you need to get your head round - DAZN needed the US non subscribers to step up and purchase this event at $84.99 for over a million buys to bake the cake, $4.99 from the UK and other 'territories' (they actually still refer to other countries that way) was just the cherry on top. No boxing outfit based in the states was ever concerned with worldwide numbers to consider their event profitable. And if you want to use the Caleb Plant fight as a comparison to see which event made more money, Canelo vs 3G III made 10 mill at the gate...Canelo v Plant made 18 mill. Your event ****** ass

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          #64
          Originally posted by DClefthook

          Here's what you need to get your head round - DAZN needed the US non subscribers to step up and purchase this event at $84.99 for over a million buys to bake the cake, $4.99 from the UK and other 'territories' (they actually still refer to other countries that way) was just the cherry on top. No boxing outfit based in the states was ever concerned with worldwide numbers to consider their event profitable. And if you want to use the Caleb Plant fight as a comparison to see which event made more money, Canelo vs 3G III made 10 mill at the gate...Canelo v Plant made 18 mill. Your event ****** ass
          The Fight was $4.99 in the UK? Struggling to believe that.

          It certainly wasn't $4.99 in my territory (Australia).

          I'm not sure why you think US money is worth more than money from elsewhere.
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            #65
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy

            The second PPV of Canelo and Golovkin was limited to cable providers, through HBO, on FITE TV and on RING TV. Collectively, it did 1.1 PPV buys. That's collectively through the networks.

            Now it did more than 1 million PPV buys. It's only slightly less than how it did before. How can you say that it flopped? Where? How? Why?

            This **** is just ridiculous how you guys are experiencing this level of denial .
            65 million in guaranteed purses wasn't paid out in the 2nd canelo fight.

            they both got guaranteed purses under 10 million in the 2nd fight.

            That's the difference

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            • kafkod
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              #66
              Originally posted by DClefthook

              Here's what you need to get your head round - DAZN needed the US non subscribers to step up and purchase this event at $84.99 for over a million buys to bake the cake, $4.99 from the UK and other 'territories' (they actually still refer to other countries that way) was just the cherry on top. No boxing outfit based in the states was ever concerned with worldwide numbers to consider their event profitable. And if you want to use the Caleb Plant fight as a comparison to see which event made more money, Canelo vs 3G III made 10 mill at the gate...Canelo v Plant made 18 mill. Your event ****** ass
              A UK PPV cost over $20, not $4.99. DAZN is not based in the US.

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              • DClefthook
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                #67
                You know I saw this clip on a YT boxing channel (AHKi tv) and he talked about how Canelo v Golovkin I & 2 were the last PPV fights on HBO before they went under. After PPV left them for Showtime and took the entire PBC roster with them, that was the beginning of the end for HBO. They tried to delay the inevitable by becoming the eastern European boxing channel while shytting on black boxing stars. They only promoted krusher Kovalev, Loma and 3G as the face of American boxing. Then it all came apart. Dazn saw this and thought they could come to the US and pick up where HBO left off, except they would only promote western Europeans. They thought we can just go over there and shyte on the PBC and all the blacks. That didn't work and they lost the black fan base off the rip. Then they thought they could lock in the Mexican fan base by shytting on de la hoya by stealing Canelo and that didn't work. Now they're trying to fool everyone once again saying that they're having successful PPVs. The gig is up. The bottom line is Canelo v 3G took down HBO and now it looks like this is the last big unprofitable fight that's going to take down Dazn. Good riddance!

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                • A.B Counterhooks
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                  #68
                  Numbers are not that bad considering today high inflation,Dazn ppv price itself was pretty elevated for both new and existing app users ,with new subscribers they made shtload money..not mine though,watched it for free

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                  • MeanestNiceGuy
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by chepboxingking

                    This it’s common knowledge, but don’t listen to me. Rewd article below

                    Crawford: So Many People Told Me They Don't Know How To Get ESPN App; Didn't Buy Porter Fight - Boxing News
                    Bro, come on- please tell me you have more than this to prove your point.



                    It’s Bud Crawford reporting this mess. Have you seen his tweets? I’ll give you credit for believing him but what he says only seems to be true in his current surroundings.

                    Again, read his tweets and tell me if he personally knows someone who can properly work an app.

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                    • QballLobo
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by icha

                      just saw on another post that the revenue was around 79.5 millions on PPV alone(worlwide), if you add the gate revenue they could very well end up with more than 100 millions... if true then that was very profitable...
                      The network takes almost half the PPV revenue off the top and then the promoters take their cut and there are up front expenses for promotion etc..that have to be paid back as well.
                      That number is not pure profit.
                      The fight needed to do a bigger number to be considered profitable with the expenses and guaranteed purses to each side.

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