How Much Legacy is on the line for Joshua?

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  • BKM-
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    #21
    If he loses it won't hurt his legacy that much. He has already done the very difficult task of winning back the titles after losing them to the same opponent.

    If he fails to perform such a monumental feat twice it won't be a shame. With that said, if he does pull it off it'll do his legacy good.

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    • Willow The Wisp
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      #22
      I think that the days of claiming that Anthony Joshua is "better" than EITHER Tyson Fury OR Deontay Wilder are OVER. At least, until Joshua STOPS Oleksandr Usyk in impressive fashion that is. Going 1-1 against underdogs is nothing that the other two champs have done. The argument that Joshua had defended against a better class of challenger than the other two is just worn out!

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #23
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
        If Usyk beats Joshua badly, and the once heir apparent drops to a 6-3 record against A-class opposition, does he still rank alongside Fury & Wilder all-Time??? Yes or no? How about if he's blown away quick?
        - - Flubber and Deyonce ducked the riches of AJ for sweet nothing peanuts with each other.

        What if U get blown away to Never Never Land wif Peter Pan? Would U matter anymore?

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #24
          rank alongside wilder? whats wilder done thats so special, you can argue that both got found out against top opposition

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          • Dr. Z
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            #25
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

            If Anthony Joshua beats Usyk, it is the greatest heavyweight win of the past 20 years.

            You do understand that Joshua would of beaten every single fighter he has stepped inside the ring with?

            Olympic Champion, and two time Heavyweight Champion.

            People can mock Joshua all they want, but he is maximizing his talents. In fact he is going beyond his talents.

            For a fighter who started boxing late, none of Joshua's achievements are normal.

            Tyson Fury in comparison has not maximized his talent, and has just retired after beating a fighter Joshua beat a long time ago.

            The fact of the matter is, Tyson Fury is retired. Wilder has no idea what he is doing, and here we have Anthony Joshua. Taking on a unprecedented talent in Usyk, and if he wins? It is the greatest Heavyweight win of the past 20 years.

            Joshua's legacy for me is a fighter who has maximized his talent, and has been willing to take on all comers as a Champion. He has been the only Champion of late, who was willing to take on all comers 'He has been a better Heavyweight Champion than Tyson Fury'.

            I also actually rate Deontay Wilder as a greater Champion than Tyson Fury, Wilder actually made multiple defenses 'And his wins over Ortiz are underrated'.

            Right, the winner of Joshua vs Usyk 2 is the best heavyweight around for now, and its probably Usyk. Joshua has built up a resume of wins, and took on most comers as champion.

            I disagree though Wilder is guilty of belt milking and he should have lost three times to Fury, who's guilty of the same thing + PED's.

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            • El_Mero
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              #26
              All of it...........

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              • M312
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                #27
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                Well Wilder hasn't lost to anyone like Usyk and Ruiz either! And fought Fury to a draw and 4 knockdowns. Ortiz was even quality with either Usyk or Ruiz when Wilder beat him, and probably better than very old Klitschko, Parker, Whyte and obviously the man from whom AJ won "the title".
                He didn't actually fight to a draw with Fury, he was comprehensively beaten.

                Saying Ortiz was better than Wlad or Parker is really reaching. Wladimir was ring magazine number one in the division and Parker held a title (Ring rating 3?).

                Ortiz has not even come close to replicating something like that. He's probably equal with Ruiz in terms of achievements, pre AJ. Ruiz obviously has a better record now.

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                • club fighter
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                  #28
                  At this point AJ doesn't have much legacy left.
                  A loss to Usyk again makes him one of the least credible heavyweight champions in modern times.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #29
                    Unfortunately these guys just do not fight each other... and so we have to allege who is the best. Sad state of affairs... who knows what the tea leaves will tell us.

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                    • STREET CLEANER
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                      #30
                      Legacy? He has to make sure he beats Usyk so he can continue as a top HW.

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