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i agree. His accuracy and defense were great, His ability to contrul range and have you fight his style were probably the best, His style was not pleasing but he used it to perfection. I think his eyes were the best too. He saw punches clearly and even in the pocket it was hard to him him clean. He had an ability to focus and anticipate in coming fire, You could hit him once but hardly ever with two consecutive shots. He was a great fighter early on at 120 and 135. He kind of cherry picked as he went up in weight. He also had alot of adavntages as he got older in negotiations. He played the villain perfectly and earned alot of money. However there are several fighters i would favor over him. Ray Leonard, Roy Jones, Thomas Heans, a prime Duran.
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Well he was able to dominate and stay undefeated without big punching power. This makes it clear that he was supremely highly skilled.
Most fighters soon as their punching power is ineffective, or they are being out strength struggled to stay relevant.
We have seen this of late with Canelo Alvarez.
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He was the best while he was active.
EVERY FIGHTER his detractors say would have beaten him (Margarito, Williams, Cotto to name a few) have no grounds in reality.
I'm going to C/P info as too not include any form of opinion/bias.
1) Cotto -
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Floyd Mayweather: Miguel Cotto talk ended after Top Rank put him in with a stalking horse
To summarize, Abum didn't want them to fight. IMHO, PBF would have been too smart for that, or any version of Cotto. PBF was the perfect blend of speed, accuracy, defense and power. Cotto, while entertaining to watch, was too offensive minded. PBF would have picked him apart.
2) Williams -
Did Floyd Mayweather REALLY duck Paul Williams???
https://www.boxing forum 24.com/threads/did-floyd-mayweather-really-duck-paul-williams.193835/
To summarize; it was a business decision (DLH and Hatton).. A decision that, if Williams were in May's position, would have made as well. While Paul had an intimidating size and work rate, he was often his own worst enemy. Smothering his own punches by being overly aggressive. It was very close with Margarito, who is one of the slowest and most predictable face first punch eaters the game has ever seen. Triangle theories are not popular but they are the basis of Fantasy Fights. Usually when a slow and predictable guy gives a highly regarded opponent a tough fight, it is logical to assume a more skilled fighter would handle that highly regarded opponent with ''ease''.
3) Margarito (everyone's favorite boogeyman) -
Mayweather Didn’t Duck Margarito Or Cotto
https://www.boxing news 24.com/2010/12/mayweather-didnt-duck-margarito-or-cotto/
To summarize; a 2 pronged reason. Both understandable. Financial and health (I'm guessing more financial). Also, this is when May was wanting to become his own man. It worked out to perfection. It's the blueprint. From that moment on, he became the p4p/ppv king and the face of boxing. No better way to say F YOU to an ex boss.
IMHO, Margarito would have been similar to shooting fish in a very shallow bucket.
As it has been said many times already, EVERY boxer makes decisions they feel are in their best interests.
We as fans have to look at their resumes with HONEST EYES and ask themselves if that fighter fought enough qualities guys when they were in good to great condition or if they fought a guy at the end of their careers. If a fighter spent too much time fighting bums and journeymen.
The sticking point is a fan being honest.
#TL/DRFool
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Nice summarization bagz. But honestly dont you get tired of defending Floyd? All the reasons why a fight didnt get made. Yeah good times.He was the best while he was active.
EVERY FIGHTER his detractors say would have beaten him (Margarito, Williams, Cotto to name a few) have no grounds in reality.
I'm going to C/P info as too not include any form of opinion/bias.
1) Cotto -
10636879-large.jpg
Floyd Mayweather: Miguel Cotto talk ended after Top Rank put him in with a stalking horse
To summarize, Abum didn't want them to fight. IMHO, PBF would have been too smart for that, or any version of Cotto. PBF was the perfect blend of speed, accuracy, defense and power. Cotto, while entertaining to watch, was too offensive minded. PBF would have picked him apart.
2) Williams -
Did Floyd Mayweather REALLY duck Paul Williams???
https://www.boxing forum 24.com/threads/did-floyd-mayweather-really-duck-paul-williams.193835/
To summarize; it was a business decision (DLH and Hatton).. A decision that, if Williams were in May's position, would have made as well. While Paul had an intimidating size and work rate, he was often his own worst enemy. Smothering his own punches by being overly aggressive. It was very close with Margarito, who is one of the slowest and most predictable face first punch eaters the game has ever seen. Triangle theories are not popular but they are the basis of Fantasy Fights. Usually when a slow and predictable guy gives a highly regarded opponent a tough fight, it is logical to assume a more skilled fighter would handle that highly regarded opponent with ''ease''.
3) Margarito (everyone's favorite boogeyman) -
Mayweather Didn’t Duck Margarito Or Cotto
https://www.boxing news 24.com/2010/12/mayweather-didnt-duck-margarito-or-cotto/
To summarize; a 2 pronged reason. Both understandable. Financial and health (I'm guessing more financial). Also, this is when May was wanting to become his own man. It worked out to perfection. It's the blueprint. From that moment on, he became the p4p/ppv king and the face of boxing. No better way to say F YOU to an ex boss.
IMHO, Margarito would have been similar to shooting fish in a very shallow bucket.
As it has been said many times already, EVERY boxer makes decisions they feel are in their best interests.
We as fans have to look at their resumes with HONEST EYES and ask themselves if that fighter fought enough qualities guys when they were in good to great condition or if they fought a guy at the end of their careers. If a fighter spent too much time fighting bums and journeymen.
The sticking point is a fan being honest.
#TL/DRFool
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I wouldn't say I'm defending him
Rather, I posted as much fact based info as possible.
I included links to support my views.
This is rare in NSBville
Then I gave my opinion on the topic.
Most fans side with ''defend'' their guy on the regular.
You won't find many, if any, threads made by me about May.
If the topic comes up, yeah, I'll comment
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- - TBA Cotto on 2 weeks notice beat up l'l floydy bloody.He was the best while he was active.
EVERY FIGHTER his detractors say would have beaten him (Margarito, Williams, Cotto to name a few) have no grounds in reality.
I'm going to C/P info as too not include any form of opinion/bias.
1) Cotto -
10636879-large.jpg
Floyd Mayweather: Miguel Cotto talk ended after Top Rank put him in with a stalking horse
To summarize, Abum didn't want them to fight. IMHO, PBF would have been too smart for that, or any version of Cotto. PBF was the perfect blend of speed, accuracy, defense and power. Cotto, while entertaining to watch, was too offensive minded. PBF would have picked him apart.
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Cotto with 3 months training KOed by Manny.
Thanks for the reminder. U precious...
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He was better than what his most vocal detractors would say and not as good as his most emotional fans believed - pre-internet this wouldn't have been much of a factor in the discussion. The man on the street will never see Mayweather in the same light as Ali, he just doesn't have that charisma. I know people will say that Ali was hated too - true, but that was mostly for his politics. Mayweather is a dislikeable individual to many because he seems to have a very superficial belief system and is a poor orator.
Beyond that, the record is excellent, the fights less so. The drama came from the hope someone would finally chin him. He did what was necessary to win and no one can criticise him for that, its his health. But his fights and the way he conducted his career was uninspiring except to the fans who view life through a financial lens and equate more wealth with increased happiness.
Personally I don't miss him and found the five-year wait for Mayweather - Pacquiao unacceptable (and no it wasn't all Floyd's fault). I've never felt the same about boxing since that time but I have become more engaged again in recent years and Floyd's retirement has helped with that. Ignoring Jake Paul is important also.Comment
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Near the end of his career, he was there for the taking. Mayweather was by far more eroded than Pacquiao when they finally fought.
His physical strength was on the decrease, and his inside game was nearly non existent. He was still able to beat Pacquiao pretty much by bluffing and staying in first gear.
Pacquiao really should of done better, and beaten Mayweather.
That is another hallmark of a great fighter, even on bad nights they can win etc.
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