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  • War Room
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    #21
    Originally posted by just the facts

    You’re a buffoon. Every regular poster here recognizes you as such.
    Yea sure, that's why my likes to posts ratio is high (approx ~25%). You're a weakling, admit it.

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    • just the facts
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      #22
      Originally posted by War Room

      Yea sure, that's why my likes to posts ratio is high (approx ~25%). You're a weakling, admit it.
      Get a life. Only a true douche bag (you) would think some stat from an obscure website would be a life accomplishment.

      I’ll say it again, every regular poster here recognizes you for the idiot you are.

      There’s not one poster in this thread that agrees with you. Not one. Doesn’t that tell you something! It should unless you’re one of those “I’m right and everyone else is wrong “ mfers. You probably are………

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        #23
        The 10 count doesn't start automatically as soon as a fighter touches down. It starts when the ref calls a knockdown by pointing to the canvas. The ref's count of "one" should come approx one second after he first points to indicate a KD has been called.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LarryX....
          10 count...not 10 second count
          Yes I've seen some of those olden days fights and the refs count is slow. Each count is about 3 seconds long, so buster got a fast count

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            #25
            Originally posted by just the facts

            Get a life. Only a true douche bag (you) would think some stat from an obscure website would be a life accomplishment.

            I’ll say it again, every regular poster here recognizes you for the idiot you are.

            There’s not one poster in this thread that agrees with you. Not one. Doesn’t that tell you something! It should unless you’re one of those “I’m right and everyone else is wrong “ mfers. You probably are………
            #1 boxing website is obscure? Viacom must have thought that when they bought it for big bucks. SMH. It's the only metric to go by and it's solid.

            You're literally a crazy person. of course people agree with me and on a high frequency. As for this thread, I don't need anyone to agree, the time is there and it's valid.

            Originally posted by kafkod
            The 10 count doesn't start automatically as soon as a fighter touches down. It starts when the ref calls a knockdown by pointing to the canvas. The ref's count of "one" should come approx one second after he first points to indicate a KD has been called.
            Incorrect. The timekeeper starts the count as soon as the fighter hits the canvas and the ref picks up the count from the timekeeper. My count matches the ringside timekeeper and yes, it starts when the fighter touches canvas.

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              #26
              Originally posted by War Room




              Incorrect. The timekeeper starts the count as soon as the fighter hits the canvas and the ref picks up the count from the timekeeper. My count matches the ringside timekeeper and yes, it starts when the fighter touches canvas.


              The timekeeper's count is not the official count, it is only used as guide for the referee:

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-454d651c3b08/

              "Boxing rules require the timekeeper, after a knockdown, to immediately begin calling off the seconds, indicating the count with a motion of his arm. After ordering the other boxer to a neutral corner, the referee is to pick up the count from the timekeeper, indicating it with a motion of his arm.

              "Once the ref picks up the count, that's the official count," referee Mills Lane, who regularly works fights in Nevada, told the Associated Press."


              When Meyran picked up the count on Douglas, he reportedly did so at "one" rather than "three" or "four," which is where the Tyson-Douglas timekeeper is said to have left off.

              According to the rules of the New York and New Jersey boxing commissions, a knockout is not necessarily 10 seconds, but rather a count of 10.

              "A 10-count is not done by a stopwatch," said Larry Hazzard, a former referee and now chairman of the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board. "That's splitting hairs. The question is, did the fighter beat the count and can he continue?"


              Ony the ref has the authority to start the official count and it starts when he decides to start it, irrespective of the timekeeper's count. The ref can delay starting his count until the opponent goes to a neutral corner and he can also pause it if the opponent leaves the neutral corner.
              Last edited by kafkod; 07-11-2022, 11:58 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by kafkod



                The timekeeper's count is not the official count, it is only used as guide for the referee:

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-454d651c3b08/

                "Boxing rules require the timekeeper, after a knockdown, to immediately begin calling off the seconds, indicating the count with a motion of his arm. After ordering the other boxer to a neutral corner, the referee is to pick up the count from the timekeeper, indicating it with a motion of his arm.

                "Once the ref picks up the count, that's the official count," referee Mills Lane, who regularly works fights in Nevada, told the Associated Press."


                When Meyran picked up the count on Douglas, he reportedly did so at "one" rather than "three" or "four," which is where the Tyson-Douglas timekeeper is said to have left off.

                According to the rules of the New York and New Jersey boxing commissions, a knockout is not necessarily 10 seconds, but rather a count of 10.

                "A 10-count is not done by a stopwatch," said Larry Hazzard, a former referee and now chairman of the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board. "That's splitting hairs. The question is, did the fighter beat the count and can he continue?"


                Ony the ref has the authority to start the official count and it starts when he decides to start it, irrespective of the timekeeper's count. The ref can delay starting his count until the opponent goes to a neutral corner and he can also pause it if the opponent leaves the neutral corner.
                I know all about 10 seconds and 10 count lol. The timekeeper's job is to start the count and it is required for the referee to pick up this count, thus the timekeepers count IS the count.

                Citing washingtonpost as a source for this seems really sophomoric no?

                The whole point of the post is Douglas got 5 extra seconds from when he was knocked down.
                Last edited by War Room; 07-11-2022, 05:24 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by War Room

                  I know all about 10 seconds and 10 count lol. The timekeeper's job is to start the count and it is required for the referee to pick up this count, thus the timekeepers count IS the count.

                  Citing washingtonpost as a source for this seems really sophomoric no?

                  The whole point of the post is Douglas got 5 extra seconds from when he was knocked down.
                  More than Mills Lane and Larry Hazard? Do you know who those guys are?

                  "Once the ref picks up the count, that's the official count," referee Mills Lane, who regularly works fights in Nevada, told the Associated Press."

                  Douglas beat the ref's count, and the ref's count is the official count. That's all you need to know.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 07-11-2022, 08:18 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by War Room

                    I know all about 10 seconds and 10 count lol. The timekeeper's job is to start the count and it is required for the referee to pick up this count, thus the timekeepers count IS the count.

                    Citing washingtonpost as a source for this seems really sophomoric no?

                    The whole point of the post is Douglas got 5 extra seconds from when he was knocked down.
                    - - Irony of Tyson's boxing hero Jack Dempsey getting screwed by the ref in the 2nd Tunney fight by a 14 sec fight gets lost in the mayhem of the moment.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by War Room

                      Hey look, I got a new edglelord fan with 368 alt posts in 13 alt years.

                      I understand the difference between a 10 count and 10 seconds. In you're pink sky world a ref is ok to count to 1 every 3 real world seconds =---> like where does it stop?

                      There is a thing called being reasonable and 50% extra time is not reasonable. Maybe if we're talking a second or stretching it to 2, but this is FIVE seconds.

                      Fallacious, do you have a mirror next to your computer to make sure your hair is ok when posting? Nobody talks like that guy.

                      You remind me of that old In Living Color skit.

                      Your opinion on how long a 10 count should last doesn't matter, it doesn't change the fact that it's still a 10 count... and both fighters got the same amount of time to get up. Tyson fcuked up by trying to get mouthpiece in before he got up and he was all wobbly when he did.

                      Check the vids, side by side

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