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  • War Room
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    #51
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

    Well, at the end of your post you stated that it should be overturned.....
    I do actually. But that was 1 sentence and the first sentence sets the intent of the topic: Yes, old news =---> but I made this for another thread so I figured I would post it as a standalone thread. It's always good to have exact data for debates on facts.

    The facts on the exact time is 14.81 seconds which is ~15 seconds.

    Usually there is a 1-2 second difference in a 10 count and that's OK. Hell, people said Fury got a long count when he actually didn't. Viewers were enraged over the closeness of the count. I got a thread up on the exact subject. The most you could give Fury if you wanted to really argue would be a 10th of a second.

    I get it though, people aren't machines, but 5 seconds is completely unreasonable. At what time does it become outlandish for viewers to demand better?

    If GGG drops Cleneloterol and Cleneloterol gets up 18 seconds later which happens to be an 8 count because the ref likes to count 2:1, are viewers going to be outraged?

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      #52
      Originally posted by War Room

      I do actually. But that was 1 sentence and the first sentence sets the intent of the topic: Yes, old news =---> but I made this for another thread so I figured I would post it as a standalone thread. It's always good to have exact data for debates on facts.

      The facts on the exact time is 14.81 seconds which is ~15 seconds.

      Usually there is a 1-2 second difference in a 10 count and that's OK. Hell, people said Fury got a long count when he actually didn't. Viewers were enraged over the closeness of the count. I got a thread up on the exact subject. The most you could give Fury if you wanted to really argue would be a 10th of a second.

      I get it though, people aren't machines, but 5 seconds is completely unreasonable. At what time does it become outlandish for viewers to demand better?

      If GGG drops Cleneloterol and Cleneloterol gets up 18 seconds later which happens to be an 8 count because the ref likes to count 2:1, are viewers going to be outraged?
      - - Not if Glopfoot gets dropped by Canelo for the paramedics...

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      • djtmal
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        #53
        Mike lost. It happens

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          #54
          War Room, the Great Nash respects your work on here and you are a Champions league troll, imo, but of course, we all know that it's a 10 count by the ref and not a stop watch. By my experience the average 10 count, must be around 13 real seconds. The longest I think I have seen from memory from a fighter hitting the floor to being waved off, is Joshua vs Ruiz 1. Joshua was waved off 24 seconds after hitting the floor. must be a record? Nash out.
          Last edited by Nash out; 07-12-2022, 01:47 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by War Room

            I do actually. But that was 1 sentence and the first sentence sets the intent of the topic: Yes, old news =---> but I made this for another thread so I figured I would post it as a standalone thread. It's always good to have exact data for debates on facts.

            The facts on the exact time is 14.81 seconds which is ~15 seconds.

            Usually there is a 1-2 second difference in a 10 count and that's OK. Hell, people said Fury got a long count when he actually didn't. Viewers were enraged over the closeness of the count. I got a thread up on the exact subject. The most you could give Fury if you wanted to really argue would be a 10th of a second.

            I get it though, people aren't machines, but 5 seconds is completely unreasonable. At what time does it become outlandish for viewers to demand better?

            If GGG drops Cleneloterol and Cleneloterol gets up 18 seconds later which happens to be an 8 count because the ref likes to count 2:1, are viewers going to be outraged?
            Three things:

            1. there’s not one poster in this thread that agrees with you

            2. you’re an idiot

            3. every regular poster here recognizes you as such

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              #56
              Originally posted by Nash out
              War Room, the Great Nash respects your work on here and you are a Champions league troll, imo, but of course, we all know that it's a 10 count by the ref and not a stop watch. By my experience the average 10 count, must be around 13 real seconds. The longest I think I have seen from memory from a fighter hitting the floor to being waved off, is Joshua vs Ruiz 1. Joshua was waved off 24 seconds after hitting the floor. must be a record? Nash out.
              So you're ok with 20 seconds being the new 10 count?

              Originally posted by just the facts

              Three things:

              1. there’s not one poster in this thread that agrees with you

              2. you’re an idiot

              3. every regular poster here recognizes you as such
              Three more things.
              1. All you do is yell at everybody.
              2. All you do is call people names.
              3. Nobody likes you.
              Douglas got 15 seconds, I don't NEED anybody to agree with facts of the universe. Why not? Because it's a FACT. Anyone can disagree and look ******, 15 seconds is not a reasonable 10 count. Facts.

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              • Nash out
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                #57
                [QUOTE=War Room;n31492614]

                So you're ok with 20 seconds being the new 10 count?

                No, but 13 seconds or so is standard. And remember, don't confuse count, with seconds. It's a different thing. Joshua got 24 seconds before being waved off, that was crazy, don't recall seeing that before. Nash out.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Nash out
                  No, but 13 seconds or so is standard. And remember, don't confuse count, with seconds. It's a different thing. Joshua got 24 seconds before being waved off, that was crazy, don't recall seeing that before. Nash out.
                  That's all I'm asking, thank you for answering.

                  Nash, I understand what a 10 count is, I keep saying it over and over. It's standard for a ref to be off 1-2 seconds on a 10 COUNT because they HAVE to pick it up from the timekeeper. 5 seconds is extremely long.

                  Just so people know, the 10 count is modeled after a 10 second count that's part of the Queensberry Rules.

                  Again, I understand a 10 count, but the margin of error has to be reasonable. 1-2 seconds is ok, 5 is not.

                  This is a point I'm trying to highlight: Douglass received an unreasonable margin of error.
                  Last edited by War Room; 07-13-2022, 03:38 PM.

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                    #59
                    [QUOTE=War Room;n31492656]
                    Originally posted by Nash out

                    That's all I'm asking, thank you for answering.

                    Nash, I understand what a 10 count is, I keep saying it over and over. It's standard for a ref to be off 1-2 seconds on a 10 COUNT because they HAVE to pick it up from the timekeeper. 5 seconds is extremely long.

                    Just so people know, the 10 count is modeled after a 10 second count that's part of the Queensberry Rules.

                    Again, I understand a 10 count, but the margin of error has to be reasonable. 1-2 seconds is ok, 5 is not.

                    This is a point I'm trying to highlight: Douglass received an unreasonable margin of error.
                    He did get too long, but Tyson was very, very poor that night and was completely exposed. He was totally outboxed by a ****-average fighter for the entire fight. Nash out.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Nash out
                      He did get too long
                      I'm pleased to see you are a man of reason.

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