DAZN should fire Eddie Hearn.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Lol, where's the emotion? You read your post?
Grrrrrr! Very angry man(?).

Anyway, bored now, feeling sorry for you. Like I said before, it's just boxing, and this is just a forum, don't let Eddie or posters get to you. Stay cool bro, just think more about your posting actions, not difficult to search up posts on the internet.

Anyway, sleep tight, don't let Eddie bite (your mum) (couldn't help it haha, grrrrrr!!)

So you lied about the number of threads, couldn’t provide any example of “hate” in this thread and couldn’t provide any evidence that contradicts my statement that Hearn has done a terrible job at DAZN, you also can’t spell basic polysyllabic words so you’re evidently some sort of halfwit.

Keep up the mum jokes though you certified ******, it’s a really good look for you.

[Inspired]

On paper dazn may be in the red, but it doesnt matter because that red is down to the rights they've aquired all over the world.
What i compare is their expenditure on rights specifically in one trading period and then their turnover the next. It was pretty much close to x2. Eg spend $200m on rights fees, turnover $400m the next year. However each time they've doubled down on rights fees too. So they clearly project GROWTH to keep spending it but their paper debt grows.
Furthermore their rights deals are usually restructured (esp due to covid). They actually restructured them during covid lockdown to such an extent that they broke off existing contracts with rights providers due to the lack of sport, then directly won the rights deals. How well they do out of that i don't obv know but they would not be playing around here if they were losing money and not seeing growth.

Now with global expension, i imagine it takes even more tinvestment but a longer time period, but the end game is a monopoly on the world.
They spent $200m on staff costs in 2020 and people think eddie hearn's $120m a year is what broke the camel's back, how does that work?

Now they've become a legit betting firm in their own right too. This is an entity that is linked to sports betting entirely through Perform group that merged with stats 2 weeks before THE mother of all fixes. I've been repeating this ever since and was already telling people before than they dazn is not there for mere subs, they are there for a much bigger pie, the betting industry.

grown men lacking the basic intelligence to understand that dazn's entry into the US market came only after sports betting was legalised nationally in the US. In fact it's the reason why premier league clubs are worth so much that the glazers wouldnt even sell for $4b to saudis. What do they see we don't? it's always been this anticipation of a coming global betting monopoly.
no one in the world is better prepared right now to become that, than len blavatnik...

all dazn is, is a means to own the rights to data.They will profit from subs and from ads too, but it is sports data merged into an AI system to effectively game a global sportsbook. The reality is they want to normalise betting to the extent where you think of betting expense just like you would your broadbant contract. like £50 a month is affordable right? and you get to win every now and then, but overall the house wins big and when it matters.

With an expected value of $39 billion by 2033, the industry is undergoing rapid expansion. To get more clarity on how massive that predicted growth is- the industry was worth less than $1 billion last year

how much would betting firms pay the data/intelligence provider? 5-10%?
you already know that for a long time, premier league has been dominated by Opta stats....they effectively control the sport already and you dont know it.(i dont seperate daznfrom then, it is all one entity owned by blavatnik).

[Mr Giggles]

They should fire him because of his broken relationships with other promoters.

I bet if Eddie wasn’t involved, pbc would have no problem making wilder vs Chisora or wilder vs Whyte, but because Eddie mocks guys like Shelley finkel ‘Shirley winkle’ and Espinoza, they don’t bother with Eddie and thus fights don’t get made

Hearn tries too hard to look cool with the public

[Toffee]

If you commit to pay AJ such a massive sun you NEED to secure the UK rights to his fight because that’s where the vast majority of the revenue is. It’s not complicated.

You constantly defend anything Hearn or Matchroom do, it’s pathetic mate. Can you honestly sit there and say Hearn has done a good job in his role at DAZN?

Be objective.

He's a promoter, not a network executive. He made a massive fight and got his client paid by getting a big site fee. The rights aren't his to give to DAZN... and they weren't when they announced the future DAZN/AJ deal. He's not taking any risk on AJ... he's secured money for him through the Saudis and DAZN. Organisations are putting forward money so that he can make AJ fights - so he's done his job.

As for how he's done at DAZN... he's the head of Matchroom not DAZN. DAZN are buying shows from him. Hearn and Matchroom seems to be doing pretty well. He got a billion dollar deal didn't he? Is that what failing looks like? I bet there are plenty of promoters who would love to be failing like that.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

He's a promoter, not a network executive. He made a massive fight and got his client paid by getting a big site fee. The rights aren't his to give to DAZN... and they weren't when they announced the future DAZN/AJ deal. He's not taking any risk on AJ... he's secured money for him through the Saudis and DAZN. Organisations are putting forward money so that he can make AJ fights - so he's done his job.

As for how he's done at DAZN... he's the head of Matchroom not DAZN. DAZN are buying shows from him. Hearn and Matchroom seems to be doing pretty well. He got a billion dollar deal didn't he? Is that what failing looks like? I bet there are plenty of promoters who would love to be failing like that.

Sorry, does this thread say Matchroom should fire Hearn or AJ should fire Hearn? I’m not saying he’s done a bad job for Matchroom or AJ. Stop trying to twist it.

DAZN gave him a £750m and he spent it horrendously and the accounts prove that. Now he’s just lost the rights to their biggest UK star despite just giving him a massive guaranteed contract. There’s no way anybody can objectively say Hearn has performed well in his role at DAZN. He’s been a f***ing calamity.

[Toffee]

Sorry, does this thread say Matchroom should fire Hearn or AJ should fire Hearn? I’m not saying he’s done a bad job for Matchroom or AJ. Stop trying to twist it.

DAZN gave him a £750m and he spent it horrendously and the accounts prove that. Now he’s just lost the rights to their biggest UK star despite just giving him a massive guaranteed contract. There’s no way anybody can objectively say Hearn has performed well in his role at DAZN. He’s been a f***ing calamity.

Then you're confused. He's a provider to DAZN. He's not DAZN.

His job is to make and promote fights. That's what he's doing. DAZN can buy content off whoever they want - they chose Matchroom which is run by Eddie Hearn.

Important to note that he hasn't lost the rights to DAZN's biggest star. That's factually incorrect. DAZN never had the rights to AJ's fights. They recently acquired the rights, but that did not include the Usyk fight already made based on a site fee arrangement. No-one has lost the rights - Matchroom organised a site fee while he was free from any network.

You asked before why I defend Hearn on these threads. It's because your posts are factually incorrect.

And I'll include your original claim that Joshua was getting paid 100M regardless of whether he actually fights or not. You didn't really think that's how it happens?

You tend to be a decent poster but for some reason, Hearn just makes you take leave of your senses. You can surely see that what you're posting is nonsense?

[kafkod]

Sorry, does this thread say Matchroom should fire Hearn or AJ should fire Hearn? I’m not saying he’s done a bad job for Matchroom or AJ. Stop trying to twist it.

DAZN gave him a £750m and he spent it horrendously and the accounts prove that. Now he’s just lost the rights to their biggest UK star despite just giving him a massive guaranteed contract. There’s no way anybody can objectively say Hearn has performed well in his role at DAZN. He’s been a f***ing calamity.

Hearn didn't lose anything! Is it so difficult to get your head round the fact that Hearn runs Matchroom, not DAZN, and it was DAZN who lost out to Sky for Usyk/AJ 2. Hearn wasn't even involved in bidding for it.

If you're going to say that Eddie shouldn't have accepted the Saudi offer if he couldn't guarantee the UK screening rights to DAZN, then you need to take stock of 2 factors: Hearn's responsibility, as AJ's promoter, to get him the best deal on offer. And his legal responsibility to fulfil the terms of the rematch clause he signed with Team Usyk which gave them equal input to Matchroom in staging and promoting the rematch. Usyk was a mandatory challenger, remember. This was nothing like the situation with Andy Ruiz, who had to sign whatever rematch terms Hearn dictated to him in order to get the fight.

It's also very disingenuous of you to ignore the impact that the Corona virus restrictions had on DAZN's business. They were hit harder than any of the other boxing platforms because they didn't have any other content to keep subscribers interested during the lockdowns.

[KingGilgamesh]

I don't even think it wad the worst deal but I think the recent deleted tweet from Okolie was telling. I think more and more it's beginning to seem like Hearn has no ****ing idea what he's doing. I don't think I've seen this dude secure one decent fight of his own volition. Even Boxxer seems to be doing better on creating a long term schedule. Queensbury promotions have also got more prospects which was unthinkable five years ago.

hearn hitched a lot of his success on Joshua...but he's seeming more and more like just another heavyweight in am increasingly populated field.

[KingGilgamesh]

You don't think DAZN are just giving him all that money without him actually fighting?

I'm going to guess there's probably a contract. A few clauses. A few things Joshua has to do. That's usually how multi million dollar deals work.

This is true. There is a ton of clauses in that contract. In truth, I actually think it may have been wiser to wait until the outcome of this fight before putting pen to paper. But that's just me.

[KingGilgamesh]

On paper dazn may be in the red, but it doesnt matter because that red is down to the rights they've aquired all over the world.
What i compare is their expenditure on rights specifically in one trading period and then their turnover the next. It was pretty much close to x2. Eg spend $200m on rights fees, turnover $400m the next year. However each time they've doubled down on rights fees too. So they clearly project GROWTH to keep spending it but their paper debt grows.
Furthermore their rights deals are usually restructured (esp due to covid). They actually restructured them during covid lockdown to such an extent that they broke off existing contracts with rights providers due to the lack of sport, then directly won the rights deals. How well they do out of that i don't obv know but they would not be playing around here if they were losing money and not seeing growth.

Now with global expension, i imagine it takes even more tinvestment but a longer time period, but the end game is a monopoly on the world.
They spent $200m on staff costs in 2020 and people think eddie hearn's $120m a year is what broke the camel's back, how does that work?

Now they've become a legit betting firm in their own right too. This is an entity that is linked to sports betting entirely through Perform group that merged with stats 2 weeks before THE mother of all fixes. I've been repeating this ever since and was already telling people before than they dazn is not there for mere subs, they are there for a much bigger pie, the betting industry.

grown men lacking the basic intelligence to understand that dazn's entry into the US market came only after sports betting was legalised nationally in the US. In fact it's the reason why premier league clubs are worth so much that the glazers wouldnt even sell for $4b to saudis. What do they see we don't? it's always been this anticipation of a coming global betting monopoly.
no one in the world is better prepared right now to become that, than len blavatnik...

all dazn is, is a means to own the rights to data.They will profit from subs and from ads too, but it is sports data merged into an AI system to effectively game a global sportsbook. The reality is they want to normalise betting to the extent where you think of betting expense just like you would your broadbant contract. like £50 a month is affordable right? and you get to win every now and then, but overall the house wins big and when it matters.

With an expected value of $39 billion by 2033, the industry is undergoing rapid expansion. To get more clarity on how massive that predicted growth is- the industry was worth less than $1 billion last year

how much would betting firms pay the data/intelligence provider? 5-10%?
you already know that for a long time, premier league has been dominated by Opta stats....they effectively control the sport already and you dont know it.(i dont seperate daznfrom then, it is all one entity owned by blavatnik).

Eh...nah.

I'm kinda done with this X company claims its a so and so company but is actually all about THIS!

The era of cheap money is largely over and exorbitant spending on anything other than businesses with solid fundamentals and strong cash flow just seems futile in this era. You make a fair point about sports betting, but AFAIK the US is still a very fractured market and I would wonder just how much control those in LV still hold. DAZN has been making bad moves. Its not deniable. The considerable pullback from numerous verticals in both the US and UK should be sign enough that there is no point pretending its a fledgling business.