DAZN should fire Eddie Hearn.

[kafkod]

I don't even think it wad the worst deal but I think the recent deleted tweet from Okolie was telling. I think more and more it's beginning to seem like Hearn has no ****ing idea what he's doing. I don't think I've seen this dude secure one decent fight of his own volition. Even Boxxer seems to be doing better on creating a long term schedule. Queensbury promotions have also got more prospects which was unthinkable five years ago.

hearn hitched a lot of his success on Joshua...but he's seeming more and more like just another heavyweight in am increasingly populated field.

Seems like Okolie had one fight left on a contract he had with Matchroom and he was pissed off because Hearn wouldn't release him early so he could sign a new deal Boxxer/Sky immediately.

Hearn always made a big deal of his willingness to let fighters out of contracts whenever they asked him to. But that was then and it looks like Eddie's feeling the heat from Boxxer now!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Then you're confused. He's a provider to DAZN. He's not DAZN.

His job is to make and promote fights. That's what he's doing. DAZN can buy content off whoever they want - they chose Matchroom which is run by Eddie Hearn.

Important to note that he hasn't lost the rights to DAZN's biggest star. That's factually incorrect. DAZN never had the rights to AJ's fights. They recently acquired the rights, but that did not include the Usyk fight already made based on a site fee arrangement. No-one has lost the rights - Matchroom organised a site fee while he was free from any network.

You asked before why I defend Hearn on these threads. It's because your posts are factually incorrect.

And I'll include your original claim that Joshua was getting paid 100M regardless of whether he actually fights or not. You didn't really think that's how it happens?

You tend to be a decent poster but for some reason, Hearn just makes you take leave of your senses. You can surely see that what you're posting is nonsense?

He’s a provider and he’s failing to provide fights that turn a profit. They’re consistently losing money on his watch.

He has lost the UK rights to AJ’s next fight, how’s it factually incorrect? He bid for them and failed to acquire them. Whichever way you wanna spin it that’s a massive loss for DAZN and it’s on Hearn’s watch.

I’m talking about what’s best for Matchroom, AJ or even Eddie himself, I’m purely stating that Eddie has been a disaster for DAZN thus far and the accounts completely support that statement.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Hearn didn't lose anything! Is it so difficult to get your head round the fact that Hearn runs Matchroom, not DAZN, and it was DAZN who lost out to Sky for Usyk/AJ 2. Hearn wasn't even involved in bidding for it.

If you're going to say that Eddie shouldn't have accepted the Saudi offer if he couldn't guarantee the UK screening rights to DAZN, then you need to take stock of 2 factors: Hearn's responsibility, as AJ's promoter, to get him the best deal on offer. And his legal responsibility to fulfil the terms of the rematch clause he signed with Team Usyk which gave them equal input to Matchroom in staging and promoting the rematch. Usyk was a mandatory challenger, remember. This was nothing like the situation with Andy Ruiz, who had to sign whatever rematch terms Hearn dictated to him in order to get the fight.

It's also very disingenuous of you to ignore the impact that the Corona virus restrictions had on DAZN's business. They were hit harder than any of the other boxing platforms because they didn't have any other content to keep subscribers interested during the lockdowns.

So you’re telling me Eddie didn’t want to secure the UK rights for AJ’s next fight? Imagine back in 2013 when showtime signed Mayweather they lost out on Mayweather-Canelo to HBO. It would just never happen because it’s complete incompetence to let it happen and whether you like it or not this has happened on Hearn’s watch.

You guys just can’t accept Hearn having any accountability for the absolute calamity DAZN boxing has been so far. It’s like earlier on this thread I gave you several other obvious errors and all you could say was don’t know, don’t care. You simply can’t be objective.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Eh...nah.

I'm kinda done with this X company claims its a so and so company but is actually all about THIS!

The era of cheap money is largely over and exorbitant spending on anything other than businesses with solid fundamentals and strong cash flow just seems futile in this era. You make a fair point about sports betting, but AFAIK the US is still a very fractured market and I would wonder just how much control those in LV still hold. DAZN has been making bad moves. Its not deniable. The considerable pullback from numerous verticals in both the US and UK should be sign enough that there is no point pretending its a fledgling business.

Nice to see a bit of honesty in this thread. Financially speaking, it’s a undeniable fact that DAZN have been making poor decision after poor decision during their venture into boxing or the sports multimedia market in general in the US and UK.

[kafkod]

So you’re telling me Eddie didn’t want to secure the UK rights for AJ’s next fight? Imagine back in 2013 when showtime signed Mayweather they lost out on Mayweather-Canelo to HBO. It would just never happen because it’s complete incompetence to let it happen and whether you like it or not this has happened on Hearn’s watch.

You guys just can’t accept Hearn having any accountability for the absolute calamity DAZN boxing has been so far. It’s like earlier on this thread I gave you several other obvious errors and all you could say was don’t know, don’t care. You simply can’t be objective.

No, I'm not telling you that Hearn didn't want to secure the UK screening rights, I'm telling you that he didn't have the power to secure them and it wasn't his responsibility to secure them. I'm damned sure Hearn wanted AJ to beat Usyk first time around, but he didn't have the power to deliver that either.

Btw, you calling other people out for not being objective about Eddie Hearn is kind of funny!

[kafkod]

Imagine back in 2013 when showtime signed Mayweather they lost out on Mayweather-Canelo to HBO. It would just never happen because it’s complete incompetence to let it happen and whether you like it or not this has happened on Hearn’s watch.

AJ's exclusivity deal with DAZN doesn't start till after he fights Usyk. DAZN knew that when they negotiated the deal.

DAZN's deal with Matchroom never guaranteed them the UK rights to AJ's fights.

[kafkod]

He has lost the UK rights to AJ’s next fight, how’s it factually incorrect? He bid for them and failed to acquire them.

It's factually incorrect because Hearn never owned the UK rights and didn't bid for them either.

How can a guy lose something he never had and fail to win a bid he never took part in?

[deathofaclown]

Seems like Okolie had one fight left on a contract he had with Matchroom and he was pissed off because Hearn wouldn't release him early so he could sign a new deal Boxxer/Sky immediately.

Hearn always made a big deal of his willingness to let fighters out of contracts whenever they asked him to. But that was then and it looks like Eddie's feeling the heat from Boxxer now!

To be fair to Hearn, he has every right to make Okolie honour his contract.

Okolie is on Twitter calling him a slave master etc. Eddie has done a good job for him, getting him title shots at every level, an easy vacant world title, a 50 grand watch etc, hardly a slave master. Okolie is an entitled prick, has been since the Olympics. You would think he won a gold medal. he didn’t get past the last 16.

For those remarks, I’d purposely make him honour the contract. Or do a Bob Arum to Mikey Garcia, just don’t schedule in a last fight and make him inactive for a couple of years.

It’s not often I’d defend Hearn but Okolie should honour the contract he signed if he has to. Only a prick goes and calls someone a slave master because they don’t want honour something they willingly signed

[deathofaclown]

So you’re telling me Eddie didn’t want to secure the UK rights for AJ’s next fight? Imagine back in 2013 when showtime signed Mayweather they lost out on Mayweather-Canelo to HBO. It would just never happen because it’s complete incompetence to let it happen and whether you like it or not this has happened on Hearn’s watch.

You guys just can’t accept Hearn having any accountability for the absolute calamity DAZN boxing has been so far. It’s like earlier on this thread I gave you several other obvious errors and all you could say was don’t know, don’t care. You simply can’t be objective.

Totally agree

People can say “Hearn never had the rights” or talk about the DAZN deal starting after the Usyk fight.

I think that’s irrelevant, AJ was out of contract and behind the scenes they knew he was going to DAZN. When negotiating the site fee with the Saudi’s, they should’ve locked AJ into a DAZN deal that states he can’t fight on any broadcaster other than DAZN and then put the ball in the Saudi’s court. It’s not exactly an uncommon thing when negotiating contracts for both parties to have strict stipulations on their own side that they can’t break I.e an exclusive broadcaster in the case of AJ. I’m sure a deal could have still been made to host the fight in Saudi with that part of the deal non negotiable.

[kafkod]

To be fair to Hearn, he has every right to make Okolie honour his contract.

Okolie is on Twitter calling him a slave master etc. Eddie has done a good job for him, getting him title shots at every level, an easy vacant world title, a 50 grand watch etc, hardly a slave master. Okolie is an entitled prick, has been since the Olympics. You would think he won a gold medal. he didn’t get past the last 16.

For those remarks, I’d purposely make him honour the contract. Or do a Bob Arum to Mikey Garcia, just don’t schedule in a last fight and make him inactive for a couple of years.

It’s not often I’d defend Hearn but Okolie should honour the contract he signed if he has to. Only a prick goes and calls someone a slave master because they don’t want honour something they willingly signed

Okolie basically asked Hearn to do him a favour then reacted badly when he got NO for an answer. I can understand him being a little annoyed if he knows other fighters have asked for the same favour and gotten it. But yeah, he needs to get his around the difference between a favour and an entitlement.