Why did Floyd struggle so bad with Marcos "Bar brawler" Maidana tough-man contest style?

[Roadblock]

He didn't struggle its a fight, because of Maidanas weight advantage and how strong and aggressive he was, Floyd had to fight him in the trenches, and he beat him at his own game, that was Maidanas fight of his life, he said after it he realizes why Floyd was the best in the world.

Its the same with Hattons bum rushing, it made Floyd stay tight and weather the initial aggression, as soon as that edge is taken off then he systematically took him apart,

Floyd could do it all.

[BodyBagz]

Hey behave this thread isn't about pac, Just the facts will reprimand you.............not. Just the facts only plays the higher ground card if you talk about floyd in a non floyd thread, or if you big pac up in a non pac thread. So putting pac down is ok so don't worry.
Pac destroys maidena like he did to hatton, coming on strong face first on pac is suicide.
Horn beats floyd in australia, pac beats floyd in philipines, Nell beats floyd in ....... You fill in blanks

We have to put things into perspective.
They have fought too many common opponents and opponants who fight in a certain style for one not to be mentioned when the other is.
Maidana is everything Horn isn't allowed to dream about. May took him on 2x
The sport wouldn't sanction a May vs Horn ''fight'', even if it was held in Horn's garage.


Pac fought Bradley 3x, JMM 4x, Erik 3x and Barrera 2x
1 Horn was plenty for Pac (CPGW)
Pac would melt under Maidana's pressure.

Pac and May are attached at the hip.
Sucks for you gals

[Silence]

Horse stamina+ring cutting skills+high output

[PRINCEKOOL]

Mayweather was beginning to erode. During the second fight, he commented on this himself.

That fight reminded me of Ken Norton vs Muhammad Ali II. Where Ali, come to the realization that his float like a butterfly and sting like a bee style? Was no longer as potent, even though he got the win.

Floyd Mayweather Junior's trade mark physical strength had decreased, meanwhile not the biggest puncher? His physical strength had always been elite.

And I think this was one of the reasons why he found fighting Maidana tough. I think he was actually worse in the second fight, but still got the win.

For the rematch Floyd Mayweather Junior changed his diet and training routine. Such was his concern of his own performances. After the rematch, he reverted back to his old training methodologies.

I think the Maidana clashes showed how great Mayweather was, even while his performances were decreasing. He was still overcoming challenges inside the ring, and adapting his game etc.

[Get em up]

Having incredible technical ability doesnt help against an elite bar room brawler. Awkwardness is hard to predict and Floyd having mastered being defensive against a boxer didnt help him against a "pub dweller" with a wicked punch. Styles make fights.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Not many fighters can do what Maidana did in Floyd fights. The guy had incredible stamina and work rate, constant pressure for 12 rounds. Maidana from the first Floyd fight would be a tough opponent for every welterweight that has ever existed.

How would anybody "easily" deal with the guy coming forward, solid skilled brawler, with great cardio, who likes to let his hands go?

[jaded]

Maidana was only aggressive in the first half and gassed after 6 and Mayweather had easy time after that...same like with Zab Judah.

[Haka]

We have to put things into perspective.
They have fought too many common opponents and opponants who fight in a certain style for one not to be mentioned when the other is.
Maidana is everything Horn isn't allowed to dream about. May took him on 2x
The sport wouldn't sanction a May vs Horn ''fight'', even if it was held in Horn's garage.


Pac fought Bradley 3x, JMM 4x, Erik 3x and Barrera 2x
1 Horn was plenty for Pac (CPGW)
Pac would melt under Maidana's pressure.

Pac and May are attached at the hip.
Sucks for you gals

Did Horn ever got beaten by A Mere Con ?

[pesticid]

Maidana isn't just a brawler. He developed a style that fit his physical and mental characteristics. You can't develop highly skilled game when you're slow with short arms and expect to have success against somebody who has been practicing the sweet science since a 5 year old and has all the athletic abilities to match. So Maidana developed some technical stuff under Robert Garcia that would allow him to get off his roughhouse tactics.

Maidana did get shut out by Devon Alexander as a pure brawler and shortly after he got together with Robert Garcia and developed some boxing skills that matched his physical and mental characteristics so that he could apply his brawling style much better.

As far as what he did technically against Broner and Floyd, he used his jab off a crouch the way Marciano did. He had variety of jabs and the double jab is a key to close the distance. He shuffle stepped and he threw an overhead right from over the top that nullified the shoulder roll defense. Once he got inside, he kept it completely inside where he couldn't be countered and he could maul.

[Haka]

Maidana would have won that fight, if it wasn't for May's holding/ ducking low which was being allowed by the ref, and the ref constantly breaking them up when Maidana was smothering Floyd on the inside.