Why did Floyd struggle so bad with Marcos "Bar brawler" Maidana tough-man contest style?

[Earl-Hickey]

I watched that first fight back and Maidana is going at it like some pub dweller after a few too many but Floyd just struggles all night to work him out.

[Cypocryphy]

Because styles make fights. Or do you want to know "technically" why Maidana beat that ass?

[Earl-Hickey]

Because styles make fights. Or do you want to know "technically" why Maidana beat that ass?

Technical breakdown please.

[War Room]

I watched that first fight back and Maidana is going at it like some pub dweller after a few too many but Floyd just struggles all night to work him out.

Maybe being past his prime at 38 years old and shot to ribbons? YDKSAB.

[Cypocryphy]

Because Floyd likes to move, you have to cut off the ring, and Maidana is excellent at shifting, something Golovkin does very well too. When you do this, you can quickly force the opponent up against the ropes. At this time, Floyd began to rely heavily on the shoulder roll defense, and the kryptonite for the shoulder roll is an overhand right, which is Maidana's forte. In fact, all of his punches are pretty much looping punches. So Maidana would force Floyd up on the ropes, and from there, he'd come over the top. He'd then attack the body after Floyd started defending the punches up top. Maidana also didn't give a crap where he hit Floyd. He'd hit him on the arms, the shoulders, the back, the top of the head. Everywhere. That made Floyd less willing to counter. Maidana also has an awkward rhythm, so he was hard to time.

He actually wasn't so much of a brawler at that point because Robert Garcia really taught him a lot. I think he was crude enough to be unpredictable but sophisticated enough to really give Floyd a lot to think about.

[BodyBagz]

Why was Horn able to rob Pac ?

[SweetPbfAli]

Because Floyd likes to move, you have to cut off the ring, and Maidana is excellent at shifting, something Golovkin does very well too. When you do this, you can quickly force the opponent up against the ropes. At this time, Floyd began to rely heavily on the shoulder roll defense, and the kryptonite for the shoulder roll is an overhand right, which is Maidana's forte. In fact, all of his punches are pretty much looping punches. So Maidana would force Floyd up on the ropes, and from there, he'd come over the top. He'd then attack the body after Floyd started defending the punches up top. Maidana also didn't give a crap where he hit Floyd. He'd hit him on the arms, the shoulders, the back, the top of the head. Everywhere. That made Floyd less willing to counter. Maidana also has an awkward rhythm, so he was hard to time.

He actually wasn't so much of a brawler at that point because Robert Garcia really taught him a lot. I think he was crude enough to be unpredictable but sophisticated enough to really give Floyd a lot to think about.

You have to mention how excellent his jab was and his him doubling it while using educated footwork forced Floyd into the ropes. Floyd started going there willingly because he wasn't comfortable with the angles at which Marcos punches were coming. The ropes helped take away some of the guess work but it also allowed Marcos to get off.

I remember saying Marcos had better feet than Manny and people killed me lol. I was saying that Marcos was better at cutting the ring end the shifting that you mentioned would help him better against Floyd than Manny's fast in and out footwork.

[Cypocryphy]

You have to mention how excellent his jab was and his him doubling it while using educated footwork forced Floyd into the ropes. Floyd started going there willingly because he wasn't comfortable with the angles at which Marcos punches were coming. The ropes helped take away some of the guess work but it also allowed Marcos to get off.

I remember saying Marcos had better feet than Manny and people killed me lol. I was saying that Marcos was better at cutting the ring end the shifting that you mentioned would help him better against Floyd than Manny's fast in and out footwork.

Yeah!! Good points!! I think I heard Robert Garcia talk about improving his jab and using a double jab. It looks like Garica's influence because I don't remember Maidana doing that before.

And it's totally true. Maidana is better than Manny at cutting off the ring. It's funny that people got on you for that. lol

[BodyBagz]

May didn't struggle ''so bad''

So much missing (by missing I mean punches that didn't land on scoring areas).
So many rabbit punches.

Rinse and repeat
Reckless, ineffective aggression gets a crowd yelling.

[hugh grant]

Why was Horn able to rob Pac ?

Hey behave this thread isn't about pac, Just the facts will reprimand you.............not. Just the facts only plays the higher ground card if you talk about floyd in a non floyd thread, or if you big pac up in a non pac thread. So putting pac down is ok so don't worry.
Pac destroys maidena like he did to hatton, coming on strong face first on pac is suicide.
Horn beats floyd in australia, pac beats floyd in philipines, Nell beats floyd in ....... You fill in blanks