Comments Thread For: Wallin's Promoter: Wilder Should Fight Otto To Prove He's Really On His Way Back

[Kannabis Kid]

Fitzsimmons was born and raised over here. Whyte wasn't. he was born and raised in Jamacia. Fitzsimmons is British. But it's nice to see another contradiction being brought into play. And that was a contradiction of a contradiction. Haha.

Jack Johnson beat Fitzsimmons when he was a shot fighter. And beat a much smaller fighter too. Fitzsimmons was a natural Middleweight.

What does being knocked out by much bigger fighters have to do with anything? Those fighters were knocked out as well. As were nearly all your fighters too you clown.

Why would you ask me "Which British fighters were 3 times lineal champion" if you knew i was going to name him? What you mean is, you didn't know he was a 3 weight champion because you're clueless and an embarrassment.

Many of our fighters fought mostly elsewhere. What does that have to do with anything? What does this foolishness prove in your mind? They're just ad hominem fallacies and strawmen because you're getting bounced. You're literally writing madness that doesn't even make any f3cking sense. You are literally disturbed in the head.

What were the reasons for those fighters pulling out of those fights? It's very clear. Now why did your fighters en masse do so? And i'm not even including fighters who were also in bad shape like Oscar De La Hoya when he went into the Pacquiao fight badly drained at a weight he shouldn't have been.

I asked you what am i supposed to be looking for. Be specific.

Prove it's a paper title? Justify it. What are you waiting for?

Never fought in the UK and was buried in the USA sounds like a true Brit. It just adds to the fun though you like to angle anything in your favor but when it's the opposite oh it doesn't count you're a proper wanker.

Of course he beat him when he was a shot fighter that's your classic excuse and oh he was much bigger, Johnson started at middleweight also you idiot not my fault Fitzsimmons was fragile like most Brits especially their eye sockets (Brook, DuBois, BJS) with 7 of his 8 losses coming via KO he also got sparked twice by Jefferies the same Jefferies Johnson retired.

He didn't win a belt in the 4 belt era there are multiple champions from the US also that achieved much more than that as well at that time. Has there ever been a British champion who has won belts in multiple divisions in recent times? There have been plenty of Mexicans and Americans that's for sure.

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Never fought in the UK and was buried in the USA sounds like a true Brit. It just adds to the fun though you like to angle anything in your favor but when it's the opposite oh it doesn't count you're a proper wanker.

Of course he beat him when he was a shot fighter that's your classic excuse and oh he was much bigger, Johnson started at middleweight also you idiot not my fault Fitzsimmons was fragile like most Brits especially their eye sockets (Brook, DuBois, BJS) with 7 of his 8 losses coming via KO he also got sparked twice by Jefferies the same Jefferies Johnson retired.

He didn't win a belt in the 4 belt era there are multiple champions from the US also that achieved much more than that as well at that time. Has there ever been a British champion who has won belts in multiple divisions in recent times? There have been plenty of Mexicans and Americans that's for sure.

Do you need to fight in your own country to be from your own country? Why?

Truth is on my side. That's the only angle. As is being rational and sane.

So Fitzsimmons wasn't a shot fighter? Is that what you're saying? Do you know how old he was?

How can Fitzsimmons be fragile when he's the only Middleweight in history to become lineal Heavyweight champion?

So every Mexican and American who was stopped, regardless of circumstances, was fragile? Which Mexicans weren't fragile?

Ali, Frazier, Sanchez etc etc didn't win a belt in the 4 belt era. Are you saying they don't count or matter? Is that what your head is telling you to write? Haha.

What has other fighters and what they did got to do with you asking, and failing, which British fighters were 3 weight champions? Nothing is your answer. Nothing. Desperate nonsense of a disturbed cabbage is all you have.

Calzaghe was a two weight lineal champion. Tell me how many Mexicans have done that? Tell me how many have been 3 weight lineal champions. List them all.

[Kannabis Kid]

Do you need to fight in your own country to be from your own country? Why?

Truth is on my side. That's the only angle. As is being rational and sane.

So Fitzsimmons wasn't a shot fighter? Is that what you're saying? Do you know how old he was?

How can Fitzsimmons be fragile when he's the only Middleweight in history to become lineal Heavyweight champion?

So every Mexican and American who was stopped, regardless of circumstances, was fragile? Which Mexicans weren't fragile?

Ali, Frazier, Sanchez etc etc didn't win a belt in the 4 belt era. Are you saying they don't count or matter? Is that what your head is telling you to write? Haha.

What has other fighters and what they did got to do with you asking, and failing, which British fighters were 3 weight champions? Nothing is your answer. Nothing. Desperate nonsense of a disturbed cabbage is all you have.

Calzaghe was a two weight lineal champion. Tell me how many Mexicans have done that? Tell me how many have been 3 weight lineal champions. List them all.

You would think if he was a proud Brit him and his family would've stayed there and he would've at least fought there once. You would also think he would want to be buried in his birth nation.

Fitzsimmons is a name that nobody brings up that much is true only you as a reach. I clearly pointed out that Johnson was a small heavyweight who started at middleweight himself yet you left that out. Jefferies wasn't a big heavyweight either was common back then not that you would know.

All I know is in the books more Brits have quit than Mexicans I've listed a few just in recent times it's there to be seen and I'm talking about in their prime. Brook, Dubois, Saunders and AJ all quit while undefeated in their primes this is true.

I didn't say all the belts you moron I said in the 4 belt era and I listed the belts clearly you are always trying to twist **** you are clinically insane though. I bet you have no friends in real life and this is your only form of interaction with the world. Who would like a bald old grumpy inbred?

Canelo has all the belts at 168 and he's not retired yet always a chance he does it a 175 however there have been multiple Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who held belts in 4 divisions has any British fighter done that? Because that's what I asked I never mentioned anything about the Lineal title. Haha Naseem was past his prime but Calzaghe fighting RJJ and Hopkins when they were in there 40's was ok? Both those 40 year olds also dropped him, plus Calzaghe never held the WBC, WBO, IBF or WBA belt at 175 he just went on and retired without ever fighting Carl Froch also. So let me get this straight Calzaghe beats 2 old guys at 175 and never fights there again and he's a long standing lineal champion? If you want to hold that you can.

[BumTime]

Nobody wants that smoke. Only Ottomaniacs know his true potential after getting robbed by Fury.

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You would think if he was a proud Brit him and his family would've stayed there and he would've at least fought there once. You would also think he would want to be buried in his birth nation.

Fitzsimmons is a name that nobody brings up that much is true only you as a reach. I clearly pointed out that Johnson was a small heavyweight who started at middleweight himself yet you left that out. Jefferies wasn't a big heavyweight either was common back then not that you would know.

All I know is in the books more Brits have quit than Mexicans I've listed a few just in recent times it's there to be seen and I'm talking about in their prime. Brook, Dubois, Saunders and AJ all quit while undefeated in their primes this is true.

I didn't say all the belts you moron I said in the 4 belt era and I listed the belts clearly you are always trying to twist **** you are clinically insane though. I bet you have no friends in real life and this is your only form of interaction with the world. Who would like a bald old grumpy inbred?

Canelo has all the belts at 168 and he's not retired yet always a chance he does it a 175 however there have been multiple Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who held belts in 4 divisions has any British fighter done that? Because that's what I asked I never mentioned anything about the Lineal title. Haha Naseem was past his prime but Calzaghe fighting RJJ and Hopkins when they were in there 40's was ok? Both those 40 year olds also dropped him, plus Calzaghe never held the WBC, WBO, IBF or WBA belt at 175 he just went on and retired without ever fighting Carl Froch also. So let me get this straight Calzaghe beats 2 old guys at 175 and never fights there again and he's a long standing lineal champion? If you want to hold that you can.

Was Frazier, Ali and Sanchez in the 4 belt era? No they weren't. So they, alongside anyone else who wasn't, apparently, didn't mean anything according to you. That is what you said. So how can i be the one twisted anything here? What am i twisting?

All the fights for Fitzsimmons were elsewhere. Bob had no problem being the away fighter, so why would he try to get those fights at home? How does any of this make him not British? Born and raised here, but that isn't good enough. But Louis CK is Mexican, even though he was born in the US?

Name all these Mexican fighters who had world titles in 4 divisions?

[Kannabis Kid]

Was Frazier, Ali and Sanchez in the 4 belt era? No they weren't. So they, alongside anyone else who wasn't, apparently, didn't mean anything according to you. That is what you said. So how can i be the one twisted anything here? What am i twisting?

All the fights for Fitzsimmons were elsewhere. Bob had no problem being the away fighter, so why would he try to get those fights at home? How does any of this make him not British? Born and raised here, but that isn't good enough. But Louis CK is Mexican, even though he was born in the US?

Name all these Mexican fighters who had world titles in 4 divisions?

The WBC and WBA aren't one of the 4 belts? Am I missing something here? When I say 4 belt era I'm talking about any one of them you idiot how dumb are you dude? Seriously.

Ah so now you finally get it huh? You like to twist and skew everything but when I bring up people of Mexican ethnicity they don't count, you are a child trapped in a bald 40 year old ******* body.

Marquez, Morales, Arce, Santa Cruz and Canelo. If Leigh Wood's belt counts as one of your "champions" so do theirs. So that's 5x as many Mexicans with belts in 4 weight divisions than British. But since the Brits are classified as 4 countries, we can include De La Hoya and Mikey Garcia in that list as well seeing as they could easily obtain dual citizenship.

[PBR Streetgang]

Nobody wants that smoke. Only Ottomaniacs know his true potential after getting robbed by Fury.

Haha. I clicked on this thread to figure out why there were 7 pages of comments on an article about Wallin.

You're comment made me laugh. Not going to lie, I'm a fan of the big Swede. I wish he was more active or with one of the bigger promoters because I actually think he's pretty decent and would make for some good fights with some of the other contenders.

[TMLT87]

Wallins window of opportunity for stuff like this has closed imho. He failed to capitalize on the hype over the Fury fight and now nobody really gives a **** anymore.

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The WBC and WBA aren't one of the 4 belts? Am I missing something here? When I say 4 belt era I'm talking about any one of them you idiot how dumb are you dude? Seriously.

Ah so now you finally get it huh? You like to twist and skew everything but when I bring up people of Mexican ethnicity they don't count, you are a child trapped in a bald 40 year old ******* body.

Marquez, Morales, Arce, Santa Cruz and Canelo. If Leigh Wood's belt counts as one of your "champions" so do theirs. So that's 5x as many Mexicans with belts in 4 weight divisions than British. But since the Brits are classified as 4 countries, we can include De La Hoya and Mikey Garcia in that list as well seeing as they could easily obtain dual citizenship.

It's called the 4 belt era for a reason. There's 4 world titles. How can it be a 4 belt era when there was only two belts around with those guys? Yet you say i'm dumb? You made another ridiculous comment and now want to get out of it. Wear your ******ity like a badge of honour.

I get it now? I got it right from the start. It's you who still doesn't get it. Who is talking about ethnicity? Just you. Bob was born and raised in the UK. If someone was born and raised in the US, regardless of their ethnicity, then they're American. The same applies to Mexico. Yet your mind is telling you something else here? No, you're just dangerously deluded and disturbed. The contradictions are coming from you, not me. I get it perfectly. I can rationalise. You can't. You don't have the ability to.

Woods belt counts as there no other legal belts from the WBA in the Featherweight division. If there is a legal title that Leo owns, break it down for me how it's legal? Show me the rules that allows someone to hold onto a title for 3 and a half years without defending it?

And do you think these "4 weight champions" are better than those who only did 3 or less weights? Are they better than say, Marvin Hagler who was champion in only the one weight class?

Dual citizenship is a completely different to being from a sovereign nation though, isn't it? Anyone can get a citizenship as long as they stay in another country for long enough to obtain one. But they'll never be from that country born and raised. Citizenship is just to make sure they get fair rights while living and working over in said country. Stanley Kubrick moved to the UK and lived here as a British citizen. But he's fully American. Unless of course, you now consider him to be British?

[Kannabis Kid]

It's called the 4 belt era for a reason. There's 4 world titles. How can it be a 4 belt era when there was only two belts around with those guys? Yet you say i'm dumb? You made another ridiculous comment and now want to get out of it. Wear your ******ity like a badge of honour.

I get it now? I got it right from the start. It's you who still doesn't get it. Who is talking about ethnicity? Just you. Bob was born and raised in the UK. If someone was born and raised in the US, regardless of their ethnicity, then they're American. The same applies to Mexico. Yet your mind is telling you something else here? No, you're just dangerously deluded and disturbed. The contradictions are coming from you, not me. I get it perfectly. I can rationalise. You can't. You don't have the ability to.

Woods belt counts as there no other legal belts from the WBA in the Featherweight division. If there is a legal title that Leo owns, break it down for me how it's legal? Show me the rules that allows someone to hold onto a title for 3 and a half years without defending it?

And do you think these "4 weight champions" are better than those who only did 3 or less weights? Are they better than say, Marvin Hagler who was champion in only the one weight class?

Dual citizenship is a completely different to being from a sovereign nation though, isn't it? Anyone can get a citizenship as long as they stay in another country for long enough to obtain one. But they'll never be from that country born and raised. Citizenship is just to make sure they get fair rights while living and working over in said country. Stanley Kubrick moved to the UK and lived here as a British citizen. But he's fully American. Unless of course, you now consider him to be British?

4 belt era as in any one of the belts you know that man stop reaching on some bull**** as it's clearly been stated twice here's the proof it's there to be seen.

Post #59 - Haha I knew you would bring up Fitzsimmons like he holds any relevance now how about in modern times? Did Fitzsimmons hold the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF belt? Those are the titles I'm referring to.

Did you notice how I said or instead of and? It seems you don't know the difference.

Post #63 - I didn't say all the belts you moron I said in the 4 belt era and I listed the belts clearly you are always trying to twist **** you are clinically insane though.

No I'm saying if you can include someone who's Scottish in your list when they are ethnically different from the English then I can include Mexican-Americans who's parents were born in Mexico, normally hold dual citizenship (meaning they can represent and vote in both countries) and are Mexican by blood pretty plain and simple.

Leigh "Lying Stiff As" Wood has a paper title just like his chin.

His name is Marvelous don't forget that. They are all ATG's except instead of moving up weight classes Hagler fought smaller guys moving up like Leonard, Hearns, and Duran and the only one he knocked out was Hearns. So how can he be greater on paper when he never tested himself outside his weight class like all these multi division champions did?

Are you saying that Marquez, Morales, Barrera and Arce are not HOF fighters?

It's not though because are you telling me that a Scottish can call himself English just because they are from the same "sovereign nation" the only thing that makes you the same is your government that's all. We are talking about culture something you have no knowledge of so it's pointless to go back and forth it's obvious you have a deep hate for Mexicans and anything they accomplish most likely because the nightmares you have about Canelo beating all your undefeated fighters in humiliating fashion.

And yeah if Kubrick lived more of his life in the United Kingdom he's an American by birth who died a British citizen so what? Were Kubricks parent's born in the United Kingdom like Mikey and Oscar's parents were born in Mexico? C'mon little man you know that holds no relevance it's completely different.