The Boots Ennis hype is unreal

[KTFOKING]

I think the point your missing is styles make fights though man. Kavaliauskas isn’t a technical boxer like Ugas so he struggled badly with Robinson. I don’t hold that against him, a lot of people struggle with Robinson, he’s very awkward. Garcia struggled with Herrera for example, Thurman struggled with Lopez etc.

If Kavaliauskas and Dulorme fought tomorrow would you seriously pick Dulorme? I’d be pretty confident Kavaliauskas not just beats him but stops him.

Crowley simply hasn’t got a style that will ask any questions of Ennis. Boots needs rounds and he needs guys who are gonna try and ask a few questions of him. At least with guys like Kavaliauskas, Avanesyan they’re gonna try and back him up and look to exchange. Clayton didn’t show any of that ambition the other night. It likely ends with Ennis stopping them too but at least they probably take him some rounds and give him some valuable experience. Ortiz would learnt more from the Kavaliauskas than Boots has learnt in his last three fights put together.

I'm not sure who wins that fight but I'm sure it will be competitive. Dulorme is the more skilled and better boxer. Go back and re-watch his fight with Crawford, he was legitimately outboxing and winning a good amount of the early rounds. Then I've already stated how he was competitive with both Ugas/Stanionis. Would you pick Kavaliauskas over Ugas or Stanionis?

Clayton is more defensive and just got caught with the big shot but he could have taken Ennis some rounds. Crowley will look to win more and is on a good run but eventually he is likely to get stopped as well...All these fights are going to pretty much end the same way. Avanesyan can try to back Ennis up but he's going to take a whole a lot in return and will eventually fold just like Lipinets did. Again, really all we need is for him to fight the top guys as they are the only ones that give him a fight. All these other guys will not present much of a challenge for him.

Guess where he is right now? Right back in the gym. Ennis is just different.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I'm not sure who wins that fight but I'm sure it will be competitive. Dulorme is the more skilled and better boxer. Go back and re-watch his fight with Crawford, he was legitimately outboxing and winning a good amount of the early rounds. Then I've already stated how he was competitive with both Ugas/Stanionis. Would you pick Kavaliauskas over Ugas or Stanionis?

Clayton is more defensive and just got caught with the big shot but he could have taken Ennis some rounds. Crowley will look to win more and is on a good run but eventually he is likely to get stopped as well...All these fights are going to pretty much end the same way. Avanesyan can try to back Ennis up but he's going to take a whole a lot in return and will eventually fold just like Lipinets did. Again, really all we need is for him to fight the top guys as they are the only ones that give him a fight. All these other guys will not present much of a challenge for him.

Guess where he is right now? Right back in the gym. Ennis is just different.

2015 Dulorme and 2022 Dulorme are completely different fighters though man. I used to think he was a good fighter too, especially at 140. Was never that high on him at 147 going back to when the Argentinian stopped him on HBO years ago. I don’t think he’s got that much left now though. I think all the tough fights have taken a lot out of him tbh. Kavaliauskas smashes him to pieces if they fought now IMO.

Clayton showed no ambition and Lipinets just isn’t big enough for 147. Lipinets actually landed a few shots but it wasn’t bothering Ennis whatsoever. Ennis needs to fight a guy who forces him out of second gear. I don’t think Avanesyan or Kavaliauskas take him to deep waters or anything like that but I definitely think they give him a lot more to think about than his previous opponents have.

[Babadoux]

Yeah, he looks like the real deal but people here are going overboard assuming he beats everybody.

[KTFOKING]

2015 Dulorme and 2022 Dulorme are completely different fighters though man. I used to think he was a good fighter too, especially at 140. Was never that high on him at 147 going back to when the Argentinian stopped him on HBO years ago. I don’t think he’s got that much left now though. I think all the tough fights have taken a lot out of him tbh. Kavaliauskas smashes him to pieces if they fought now IMO.

Clayton showed no ambition and Lipinets just isn’t big enough for 147. Lipinets actually landed a few shots but it wasn’t bothering Ennis whatsoever. Ennis needs to fight a guy who forces him out of second gear. I don’t think Avanesyan or Kavaliauskas take him to deep waters or anything like that but I definitely think they give him a lot more to think about than his previous opponents have.

Then let's see those fights happen. I'm just not too intrigued with them. Crowley is in good form right now and has toughness so let's see if he can push him some rounds. But again, it's all the same for the most part. Thurman, even at this point of his career would be the best fight for him until he waits for either Crawford/Spence. I hope SHO can make it happen.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Bootsie hype so unreal it's non existent.

When Bootsie fight Cinderfeller?

[Jsmooth9876]

He's not getting Spence, Crawford or Thurman any time soon so the hype will continue for another year or so

[champion4ever]

[B]Benn, Ortiz, Stanionis, Buteav, Crowley, McKinson, Abdukakhorov[/B]

I thought we were all boxing fans here, the fight is WON IN THE RING, not on paper. You guys are going to get this man hurt if he goes in believing his own hype without facing 1 fighter with a heartbeat.

I agree. Those guys are his contemporaries. He should fight them and leave Spence and Crawford alone until they both vacate the division.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Then let's see those fights happen. I'm just not too intrigued with them. Crowley is in good form right now and has toughness so let's see if he can push him some rounds. But again, it's all the same for the most part. Thurman, even at this point of his career would be the best fight for him until he waits for either Crawford/Spence. I hope SHO can make it happen.

I just don’t think Crowley asks any questions of him, it would remind me of when they put Spence in with Algieri. Crowley would be a better test for Ortiz, as he could potentially outbox him for a few rounds, he’s not outboxing Boots. Hopefully, PBC throw enough money at Thurman, Ugas etc to get them in the ring with Ennis this year.

[SteveM]

We can get excited, I like Ennis but the issue with boxing fans saying that he can beat everyone from prospects, to contenders, to the established guard to the elites without seeing him in with a top 10 fighter is the problem...basically he can beat everyone at 147.

The have Ennis beating Spence & Crawford, skipping Ortiz, Stannonios, Buteav, etc, let alone Garcia, Thurman, etc...honestly I don't think Ennis can beat Gary Antonnie Russell.

Hmm - me and you see boxing very different then my friend. The only doubt I'd have about Ennis his a/ his chin and b/ his stamina in a hard fight. I have him 2 levels above Russell, and Garcia, one level above Stanionis, Butaev, and Thurman and same level as Spence, Crawford and Ortiz.

But ... I'm not annointing him as the best fighter at 147 - he has to prove it.

But on the eye test he looks the most skilled, the most dangerous. The important word is "looks" - not saying "he is" - again, he has to prove it.

The thing is, proving it is difficult because he looks so good, so he has been and will continue to be avoided. Same thing happened to Golovkin until he got Brook. Same thing still is happening with Andrade.

[SteveM]

I agree. Those guys are his contemporaries. He should fight them and leave Spence and Crawford alone until they both vacate the division.

I'm not against him fighting other contenders, but why should he leave the 2 champions alone? If he is ambitious, and he is, he should want to fight Bud and Spence. Spence was the same, he was calling out Thurman. And when Thurman was in Boot's position he was calling out Mayweather - this is just how boxing works.