Will Canelo be the greatest White fighter that ever lived if he beats Bivol?

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  • Satir
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    #61
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

    My point is that these people aren't growing up in Beverly Hills ffs, smh. Where would you rather grow up Kiev or Malibu?
    i dont like your point, stop spreading bull****, and about Ukraine, if this is a war - why russians are just not bombing ukranian capital Kiev to dust like americans do to other contries

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    • REDEEMER
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      #62
      Well is he considered White ? Not really he uses another nationality he doesn’t use Irish .

      Id say Vitali Klitschko even with a sub par resume as of now anyway ,Fury would also be considered considering his wins but I think the Klitschko brothers are the front guys with tile defenses and overall career .

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      • TernceBudCharlo
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        #63
        Originally posted by Satir

        i dont like your point, stop spreading bull****, and about Ukraine, if this is a war - why russians are just not bombing ukranian capital Kiev to dust like americans do to other contries
        What bull**** that tougher conditions growing up make better boxers? If you don't think that's true then you truly DKSAB or anything in life either

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        • Satir
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          #64
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

          What bull**** that tougher conditions growing up make better boxers? If you don't think that's true then you truly DKSAB or anything in life either
          "tough conditions" are OK with me, why would you bring the "war", this word make people nervous

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          • TernceBudCharlo
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            #65
            Originally posted by Satir

            "tough conditions" are OK with me, why would you bring the "war", this word make people nervous
            It's an expression... We call where I grew up a war zone even though there was no actual war.

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              #66
              Originally posted by pretty boy_
              Guys, forget about all that nationality mumbo jumbo crap for once. This thread is strictly race driven. Where does Canelo rank all time with a win tomorrow night as far as the White's go?
              I get that race is important to this thread, as far as skin color classifications go. And I get that the predictable human tendency is to lean toward the more controversial subjects but, to me the main topic of your post is ...who wins the fight tonight, will Canelo beat Bivol?
              The whole premise is predicated on Nelo being the winner. If he loses, well then the entire question is moot, right? Your scenario implies that a win over Bivol carries a substantial amount of weight right? This win could put him over the top, put him in another conversation. So this is arguably the most important fight of Nelo's career. THAT my friends, is the greater relevance of this thread and the weightier conversation. Not the categorization of skin colors or nationality breakdowns. Ya feel me.. (ah nice to be back)

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                #67
                canelo is already the best fighter to ever live regardless of race

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Well is he considered White ? Not really he uses another nationality he doesn’t use Irish .

                  Id say Vitali Klitschko even with a sub par resume as of now anyway ,Fury would also be considered considering his wins but I think the Klitschko brothers are the front guys with tile defenses and overall career .
                  Vitali.

                  How many fighters did Vitali Klitschko beat that were ranked in the Top 10? About 3?

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                  • CauliflowerEars
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Satir
                    i dont like your point, stop spreading bull****, and about Ukraine, if this is a war - why russians are just not bombing ukranian capital Kiev to dust like americans do to other contries


                    Hey that's a good question and topic for a thread!
                    Why do you think, so as to preserve the city's infrastructure in the event they rebuild ?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by -Kev-

                      But how did these Hall of Famers look? Do you have footage of them? Do you have footage of these fights? Arturo Gatti and Barry McGuigan are Hall of Famers.

                      The limited footage there is of Harry Greb, this guy fights like Ben Askren and the worst punches Deontay Wilder throws.

                      I can not believe a guy who fights like that had real stiff opposition. It’s laughable. The guy fights with chin hanging in the air, moves his head back while exchanging punches, and has the fighting stance of Scrappy from Scooby Doo.

                      Just a bunch overrated skill-less Neanderthals. When you see some of their footage you realize why there are no more great white American fighters anymore. How the hell are they going to survive with such atrocious skills? The Pittsburgh Windmill? That would be used to insult fighters skills nowadays. Windmilling was a badge of honor back in their day
                      It was a different sport back then, different gloves, different amnt of rounds.

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