Will Canelo be the greatest White fighter that ever lived if he beats Bivol?

[The Big Dunn]

Since this is a race thread- Canelo, the best Mexican and the best white boxer ever, gets shutout by Floyd, not the greatest black boxer ever.

Ok cool.

[Pantera_]

Maybe if he unifies against Beterbiev afterwords. A Bivol win will probably have him at Willie Pep level, imo.

[Pantera_]

Since this is a race thread- Canelo, the best Mexican and the best white boxer ever, gets shutout by Floyd, not the greatest black boxer ever.

Ok cool.

Yes Floyd is one of the greatest I think everybody knows that.

[Silence]

Greb won 25 fights in 1925
''Only'' 14 in 1924
Another 16 in 1923

It goes on like this throughout his career.
Maybe a handful of those 55 wins were vs legit guys ?

All of those 100+ win guys padded their records

Tyson Fury drugs ban explained: How he failed a test and why he now faces reinvestigation

https://inews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tys...-doping-408719

Tyson Fury beats your HW heros. Zero relevance with my post. Gtfoh. Thx.

[BodyBagz]

Tyson Fury beats your HW heros. Zero relevance with my post. Gtfoh. Thx.

I like your style

Your hero is a bum

[Satir]

pff, Canelo always had an advantage over his opponents, whether is age, size, power, drug testing, ring and gloves choise etc, has he ever been an underdog beating the favorite to even start this conversation

[-Kev-]

Greb fought 16 HOFs and beat 13 of them. He beat much bigger fighters than himself. He fought in different era, so he might be primitive in today's standards. But no one could reach his achievements because he was the best of his era. He could still be competitive today with modern trainings, trainers, PEDs etc.. Talent is permanent.

But how did these Hall of Famers look? Do you have footage of them? Do you have footage of these fights? Arturo Gatti and Barry McGuigan are Hall of Famers.

The limited footage there is of Harry Greb, this guy fights like Ben Askren and the worst punches Deontay Wilder throws.

I can not believe a guy who fights like that had real stiff opposition. It’s laughable. The guy fights with chin hanging in the air, moves his head back while exchanging punches, and has the fighting stance of Scrappy from Scooby Doo.

Just a bunch overrated skill-less Neanderthals. When you see some of their footage you realize why there are no more great white American fighters anymore. How the hell are they going to survive with such atrocious skills? The Pittsburgh Windmill? That would be used to insult fighters skills nowadays. Windmilling was a badge of honor back in their day

[IronDanHamza]

But how did these Hall of Famers look? Do you have footage of them? Do you have footage of these fights? Arturo Gatti and Barry McGuigan are Hall of Famers.

The limited footage there is of Harry Greb, this guy fights like Ben Askren and the worst punches Deontay Wilder throws.

I can not believe a guy who fights like that had real stiff opposition. It’s laughable. The guy fights with chin hanging in the air, moves his head back while exchanging punches, and has the fighting stance of Scrappy from Scooby Doo.

Just a bunch overrated skill-less Neanderthals. When you see some of their footage you realize why there are no more great white American fighters anymore. How the hell are they going to survive with such atrocious skills? The Pittsburgh Windmill? That would be used to insult fighters skills nowadays. Windmilling was a badge of honor back in their day

Neanderthals in the 20th Century Only off by about 100,000 years (give or take). I know you're not serious about that but that's still funny.

What's your thoughts on Gene Tunney? Looks quite slick, skilled and talented from the footage available I would say.

[TernceBudCharlo]

I forgot which one was it, Greb or Tunney, but one of them looked like Ben Askren. Or should I say Ben Askren looked like one of them. And I mean the Askren we saw vs that Paul brother.

It is no wonder “great” white American fighters aren’t a thing anymore in boxing. They are a thing of the past for a reason. I still remember how I burst out laughing at Snoop Dogg’s commentary of Ben Askren’s boxing style

You don't become a professional boxer unless you grew up in bad violent conditions. All of the good "white" fighters in the world today are either delinquent kids from England it seems or people who grew up in war zones in east Europe.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Do they even have boxing gyms in suburban America? I've never seen them.

Is Canelo white or Mexican? Or is he black and Mexican?

Is Rocky Mariano white or Italian American? Or tan and America?

What about someone with white skin in Africa?

None of this makes any sense to me anymore.