Comments Thread For: Hearn: Fury Knows How Much Bigger He'd Be If I Was Promoting Him

[RoadMan94]

Because you’ve done such a **** up job at promoting there edward. If anything Anthony Joshua is the reason for YOUR success not vice versa. Narcissists gonna narcissism….

You’ve just opened up some people’s 3rd eye with this one. I’m glad somebody else sees this. Eddie uses the fighters platform to brand himself. Look at teo v George, Eddie wanted photo ops with them making sure Matchroom logos are around.

Like Lou Dibella said, “Eddie likes to fool people into thinking he promoted those guys”

Its the same for fans who think Eddie is Canelo promoter. He isn’t. He’s a middle man for DAZN And Canelo , as they can’t go through GBP anymore. After this year, if victorious Canelo will likely sign for Bob arum to get the winner of Smith - Beterbiev, and whilst this plays out, Eddie will hope he can line up a LHW contenders to feed Canelo and get him back on DAZN.

[P to the J]

I remember their was a lot of buzz for Daniel Dubois and some for old slow Joe Joyce, I think that the global locked down due to COVID-19 hurt their profiles. All though Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois had just past the margin of contender status, the fact that we in America got to stream their fight on ESPN+ suggest they were known. I wish the UK did a better job at publishing their viewership numbers like we do in America, that would give us a clearer picture for public interest.

You can say that Matchroom or Eddie Hearn deserved credit for obtaining the massive platform in SKYSPORTS for : A.J, Whyte and Chisora, and no doubt it helped his campaign at promoting them, but will his new deal with DAZN do the opposite?

You know what, I somehow forgot about the pandemic; that’s probably it, man. Big fan of old Joe, and glad the US fans get to watch his slow ass as well.

Yeah, I’d have to answer in the affirmative to your question. Maybe it will change in 10-15 years, but right now, Skysports are the number one sports package, rightly or wrongly. Getting those 3 away from the mainstream platforms isn’t good for them, IMO.

Some dystopian style company like Amazon or Disney have got a far better chance of challenging the UK sports market than DAZN.

[KingGilgamesh]

I almost said that I agree totally, but my objection to that point is that Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois, etc, aren’t exactly really well renowned round here.

By way of contrast, Whyte, AJ, and Chisora (as you say) are massive. It might be that some credit goes to Hearn, but really, I think the biggest thing is that SkySports is the most powerful sports brand in the UK, and that’s where these guys have featured. Even Fury got catapulted to the really big leagues by fighting on Sky PPV (talking vs. Wladimir)

But this comment doesn't negate his point. I like Chisora, but he and Whyte really shouldn't be getting any real PPC audiences. They're the equivalent of Ruiz and Arreola. The fact that audiences will pay PPVs for someone like Chisora here in the UK is testament to just how low the standards are of the British boxing public when it comes to heavyweights.

[KingGilgamesh]

If u don't like a chisora fight, u don't like boxing u g*y fake yank

Chisora's last fight with Parker was disgusting. I dont know how anyone can be a fan of the uy and enjoy that spectacle.

[P to the J]

But this comment doesn't negate his point. I like Chisora, but he and Whyte really shouldn't be getting any real PPC audiences. They're the equivalent of Ruiz and Arreola. The fact that audiences will pay PPVs for someone like Chisora here in the UK is testament to just how low the standards are of the British boxing public when it comes to heavyweights.

Yeah that’s very fair, mate, doesn’t speak greatly of the boxing expertise over here. Then again, it’s becoming a niche sport everywhere.

But my point in reply to his was, if it’s so easy to sell ‘big goof HWs’ over here, then how come only the ones associated with Hearn or Sky are big, bar Fury?

[KingGilgamesh]

He may be bigger with a certain demographic of people. But if Tyson Fury was being promoted by Eddie Hearn 'Fury would not of been allowed to act and say all the things he has in his career'.

Some of those things have got Fury into trouble, but they have been his truth. Tyson Fury's fan base are his fans because, he is a extension of themselves. They see traits of themselves within Tyson Fury.

Anthony Joshua is somebody who the public look up to, his traits and attributes are alien to them. It is a different kind of rapport and appreciation his fans have compared to Fury fans etc.

Joshua's persona is fake, and his fans are fickle. Thats why half of them have turned on him in the last few months. We've all seen the comments on social media. I have nothing in common with Fury or the typical Brexiteer types who like him...but he is talented. Thats enough for me. A big problem in this country is people not acknowledging talent and thinking success should only be afforded to those deemed "worthy" or appropriate. Joshua was indicative of the fake, multicultural, London centric vision that companies don't really believe in but will sell for profit. Even as a London born guy who hangs around a whole bunch of different types of people, its something I will never get behind.

[joe strong]

He probably lost most of them, HA!

So what they were still extremely entertaining fights. Chisora, Zab Judah, Malinaggi & that middleweight with 13 losses that still gets meaningful fights all have one thing in common & that is they have a good following, name recognition & they are always in entertaining fights. People actually like to be entertained when they pay their hard earned money to watch.

[joe strong]

Warren and Arum aren’t exactly the go to guys for putting their fighters out there and or making you want to follow them ,like watching paint dry next to Hearn . Funny posters going on about Hearn ,what do the other guys do exactly better then how Hearn promotes his shows and fighters ?

Hearn knows they don’t really compare and so do you guys that’s why you are all wound up .


Fury and Hearn would have made for a great duo both witty and would compliment each other it wouldn’t be just listening to Tyson be a one man band when asked questions . The forum would be oftley boring though , all these Fury fanatics would be praising Hearn .

It is not uncommon for fighters to move around to different promoters. Fury could still end up with Hearn if he sticks around long enough. He has had 3 promoters already to this point.

[REDEEMER]

It is not uncommon for fighters to move around to different promoters. Fury could still end up with Hearn if he sticks around long enough. He has had 3 promoters already to this point.

That’ll definitely never happen. Fury will be retired within 2 fights most likely if not after this one as he’s adamant about particularly if he losses to Whyte he’ll never box again he doesn’t t have the fortitude to come back after a loss it is what it is he’s already did everything possible in his mind ,to come back means at least 2 more years in boxing trying to reclaim a title .

Tyson Fury is somewhat a huge legend in his own mind ,walking away today he’d think he beat top guys for decades that’s how he views himself. The reality is he has 1 title defense which actually shouldn’t count since it’s the guy he fought 3 times and a very questionable history. The forum has already shot down Whytes credibility so where does that win if he gets it take him ? Not very far career wise ,sure he’s a former world champion if he retires but that’s about it ,imop he will be viewed as a guy who fled the era and didn’t want to actually prove he’s the best of the era ,defeating Whyte doesn’t do that .


Now Hearn as a promoter fir him just isn’t practical,that means he has to siping contracts etc…..and that’s way beyond a 2022 date it’s not really imaginable he does that over at Top Rank .

[PRINCEKOOL]

Joshua's persona is fake, and his fans are fickle. Thats why half of them have turned on him in the last few months. We've all seen the comments on social media. I have nothing in common with Fury or the typical Brexiteer types who like him...but he is talented. Thats enough for me. A big problem in this country is people not acknowledging talent and thinking success should only be afforded to those deemed "worthy" or appropriate. Joshua was indicative of the fake, multicultural, London centric vision that companies don't really believe in but will sell for profit. Even as a London born guy who hangs around a whole bunch of different types of people, its something I will never get behind.

I have watched people distance themselves from Joshua on this forum, no need to point them out. I would not say Joshua's persona is not fake, but he is awfully restrained 'Of late he has been coming out of that restraint, and I sense people do not like it'.

In his latest interview he was going on about, keeping things to yourself 'Because people don't really care'.

He has clearly been upset by the fans that have turned on him. That is why I think all these fighters who say things like 'I do this for the fans, I just want to entertain'.

They all need to check themselves, because 90% of boxing fans do not care about you. All these people that sing that Neil Diamond song, as you have stated 'They have no real deep rapport'.

I am aware of the demographic which supports Tyson Fury. Although may I just add, I am actually backing Fury vs Whyte. But I would not class myself as a hardcore Fury fan, I am neutral with most fighters these days. Since the retirement of David Haye, I have honestly not really built a rapport with any other fighter.

Joshua's fans have turned on him, because he has not provided them with what they want. And he has shown signs of stepping out of line.