Muhammad Ali the most overrated HW ever

[MikeyMike100]

Oh yeah Ali weren’t sh**. Those three Lineal Heavyweight Championship reigns aren’t impressive at all and those 7 Hall of Famers he beat must have all been scrubs.

Low rent troll right here.

It's really 4 hall of famers Liston, Fraizer, Norton, Foreman.

Patterson was way past it and Moore and Foster were hall of famers because of what they did at light heavyweight

[$quabbles94806]

lost to Ken norton 3 times and make Norton great but Norton is just decent fighter 3-7 record vs top contenders
Joe Frazier he's pretty much known for giving Ali his first loss. Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena, Foster, these guys had loads of losses when he fought them and he fought a few of them a few times. Never fought Lyle or Norton, Foreman turned him into a leprechaun. Not a ATG but Ali make him ATG title reign nothing special

Ali lost to Spinks a decent fighter at best yet again Ali fans think Spinks is some god and always mention him in Alis resume Ali media hype is in another level
Frazier Norton Listo, Lyle, Young Folley, Bonavena, Quarry are not different than Ruddock Tucker Mercer Moorer Byrd Alis resume is no better than any other great0 dominant HW champ But Ali era got and still the most media attention and exposure his myth and resume are distorted

I've heard all the arguments.

[MikeyMike100]

By my count, he faced about 10+ arguably 'great' fighters (at the time of the fight), in fairly neutral venues. No one else imo comes close to that level of competition. For me, that is why he is the GOAT.

Which 10?

[MikeyMike100]

7 hall of famers is misleading

Beat ancient Archie Moore who was a LHW great

Beat Liston who was a great but slightly past prime still a great win

Beat an old Patterson

Lost to prime Frazier. He won the 2nd and 3rd but Frazier was no longer prime

Lost first one to Norton. Won 2nd one (debatable) I personally had it a draw. Could've gone either way. 3rd one was an absolute robbery.

Beat prime George Foreman. Great win.

Also beat Bob Foster who is a light heavyweight great.

Had a pretty inexcusable loss to Leon Spinks.

Had a questionable decision vs Jimmy Young.

I don't care about the Holmes and Spinks fights cause Ali was obviously shot so I don't really count that


Overall phenomenal resume and fought such good opposition consistently but the 7 Hall of Famers thing is overrated.

[The D3vil]

We should've never gave you motherfxckers internet access.

[Fanofreason]

The 2 most overrated fighters of all time

Ali and De La Hoya

[Roadblock]

I dont have problem with that but no one can tell me that Guy like Norton are ATG

Lets establish a reference yardstick name who you think is the greatest HW and we will compare the resumes and who beat them or they struggled with etc , because the way you apply things to Ali can also be applied to pretty much any top HW ever, I think when people say overrated blah blah and only talk about that guy its flawed badly.

[Roadblock]

The 2 most overrated fighters of all time

Ali and De La Hoya

Overrated by whom and what is the rating meaning? Im suggesting anybody that doesn't rate a guy the same as you is overrating or underrating that guy, fans are so messed up.in a contextual way, its not ratings its favouritism.

[Toffee]

Based off the first post I think he's the most underrated champion ever.

[davef]

Do you think he just posts for shock value or do you think he actually believes that ignorant bu!!shyte?

yea it’s got to be for shock value and getting people at it

Ali was and is a legend his fights were legendary and as everyone knows before he faced wrecking machine Foreman people were expecting him to be seriously hurt and he fought like a matador vs a bull and stopped him it might be boxing’s most legendary win